elad2412 / the-new-css-reset

The New Simple and Lighter CSS Reset
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Adding <label> elements to the rule reverting the 'cursor' property #63

Open mesr opened 1 year ago

mesr commented 1 year ago

May I suggest adding label to the selector list of the rule that reverts the cursor property (line 23)? I tend to believe that CSS authors are much likelier to want the arrow cursor than the text caret for their labels.

graymatter00 commented 1 year ago

I found an interesting article and comments about the issue of cursor-over-text in browsers. See https://www.impressivewebs.com/cursor-over-text-behaviour-browsers/.

It seems there are differing opinions on the matter.

For me, I think it would depend on the type of website/webapp, the intended usage, and the targeted users. Therefore, I wouldn't place a cursor setting for label or any other text-filled elelment in the reset. I'd suggest applying the setting to the cursor on an as-needed basis in the site/app's custom CSS.

elad2412 commented 1 year ago

Hi @graymatter00,

I can understand the logic of what you are saying, but still, I think everyone needs to decide for themselves in those cases.

From my perspective, I will prefer the hand "clicking" cursor because <label> is connected to something clickable like <input>.

In the projects that I'm working on, there is another reset custom layer that adds things that are more my preferable, for example:

button {
  cursor: pointer;
}
mesr commented 1 year ago

I agree with you guys (although I — at least partially — disagree with the opinion expressed in the article mentioned by @graymatter00 about the purpose of the text caret cursor). I myself prefer the hand pointer for <label> elements. I was only under the impression that the arrow cursor set by the browser's default stylesheet provided a more sensible default. This anyways is a very small detail. Thank you for putting together and maintaining this very useful piece of software!

oinochoe commented 1 year ago

I agree with elad2412 . Sometimes people may want to specify "cursor" as "pointer" for the

mesr commented 1 year ago

Would setting cursor: revert on label elements in the reset stylesheet prevent users from overriding that property in their own code? My understanding is that unless they don't implement layers and do include the reset stylesheet after their own stylesheet (which, as far as I understand, is not recommended anyways), there is nothing either way that prevents them from overriding the property.

graymatter00 commented 1 year ago

@mesr

Would setting cursor: revert on label elements in the reset stylesheet prevent users from overriding that property in their own code?

No, it would not prevent the property from being overridden by a subsequent setting of the property.

I'm not really understanding the rest of your question/comment. However, I think a better understanding of CSS would benefit you. I recommend Learn to style HTML using CSS as a good place to start.

mesr commented 1 year ago

@graymatter00: your misunderstanding of my comment may be due to ambiguous wording on my part, but I doubt very much that it stems from any misunderstanding of CSS.

I was merely replying to @oinochoe who seemed to suggest that setting cursor: revert on <label> elements would prevent users of this reset stylesheet from overriding that property. My position was that, as far as I know, if they do not implement CSS layers and do include this reset stylesheet after their own stylesheet, then yes, this may prevent overriding some properties in some cases, but that doing so would not be a recommended CSS coding practice anyways.

As for now, I think that I will walk out of this conversation since the position of the maintainers is already clear, and that it has little impact on my appreciation of the usefulness of this stylesheet.

Thank you for taking the time to review and evaluate my suggestion.

oinochoe commented 1 year ago

@mesr I agree. It can be overwritten by the user, but it seems that existence is necessary as a layer that needs to be processed before that. However, the question of whether it should be "cursor" still remains.