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Side nav and project settings -> management page titles are not matching in serverless #164316

Closed bhavyarm closed 1 year ago

bhavyarm commented 1 year ago

Kibana version: main

Browser version: chrome latest

Original install method (e.g. download page, yum, from source, etc.): From QA

Describe the bug: Side nav and project settings -> management page titles are not matching which is confusing for me as an user.

Contents in side nav and contents under the management page point to different items:

content_contents

Security in side nav says other under management:

security_other
elasticmachine commented 1 year ago

Pinging @elastic/platform-deployment-management (Team:Deployment Management)

alisonelizabeth commented 1 year ago

Thanks for raising this @bhavyarm! I left a comment on https://github.com/elastic/kibana/issues/163997, as I think it's a related effort.

bhavyarm commented 1 year ago

Observability project screenshots @gchaps There is no content in the side nav or security.

Screenshot 2023-08-21 at 4 20 14 PM Screenshot 2023-08-21 at 4 20 18 PM
gchaps commented 1 year ago

I checked with @ryankeairns, and here is his feedback:

While I appreciate the potential for confusion - esp for those who know Kibana - I don’t think it’s something we need to address, specifically.

The IA within a solution is not intended to match the management IA one for one. Instead, we can view this as them elevating certain items from Management that fit into their particular use case(s)/context. For that reason, they may well categorize them differently. In this case, the use of Content could be more coincidence than intent.

I suggest we keep an eye out for feedback to gauge the level of confusion as this rolls out.

Also feedback from @sixstringcode:

I would say it’s just a different model. Gmail uses tabs instead of cards, but the folders from my inbox are still visible. I don’t think it’s that confusing personally.

bhavyarm commented 1 year ago

@gchaps @ryankeairns @sixstringcode The breadcrumb for index management in observability project is content-> index management which matches the sidenav.

content_index_management

But it's under data on the main page:

management_data

I get the point about design being different for this. In that case should the breadcrumbs match the side nav or the main page? That is still confusing. Thanks!

sixstringcode commented 1 year ago

@bhavyarm Thank you for these examples. Shared-UX is still sorting out a few details in breadcrumbs, but this might be something different. Search has elevated Index Management to their top level menu. The breadcrumb is technically correct in the first example. That being said, it still available in management so it's accessible there also. We have cases like this today. If you go to Security and access Roles, it will add management to the breadcrumb, because you are technically going to management > roles.

alisonelizabeth commented 1 year ago

@sixstringcode can we close this issue as working as expected then?

sixstringcode commented 1 year ago

Yes, I'll do that now. Feel free to reach out to me if there are any more thoughts.