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Scotland as a separate entity #596

Closed PsychoAxeKiller closed 6 years ago

PsychoAxeKiller commented 7 years ago

Scotland although part of the uk is a massive wind generator, i seriously think scotland should be listed as part of the uk but have its own resources system for displaying the info.

corradio commented 7 years ago

Unfortunately right now we only get data for the National Grid area, which includes Scotland. If anyone know of another datasource, let us know in this thread so we can add it.

Rae55 commented 7 years ago

There is data on the power flow in the Scotland - England interconnector at; http://realtimeweb-prod.nationalgrid.com/SystemData.aspx Flow in the cable between N. Ireland and Scotland is also shown there but seems to be several hours behind just now. This data probably won't be much use for the electricity map, but for people who are interested in the Scottish electricity system, it can sometimes give useful data.

jarek commented 6 years ago

Saving for future: http://anm.ssepd.co.uk/ has current renewable generation and current demand on Orkney (view HTML source to get numerical values). Orkney is connected to mainland Scotland.

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_Scotland there is no fossil fuel or biomass stations on Orkney, and it only lists wind farms and one wave/tidal farm among renewables on Orkney. The wave farm is http://www.emec.org.uk/ , it has a "live data" link that redirects to the the ANM SSE page. So I guess renewable production on the ANM SSE page is mostly wind, and everything else is imported or exported to British/Scottish grid.

Also as observed in another ticket, Shetland is currently drawn the same as Britain, but it is not connected.

systemcatch commented 6 years ago

This will be difficult to do. My first thought is to ask https://www.bmreports.com if they could provide a breakdown by plant in addition to breakdown by type. They already provide data to ENTSOE which is how GB gets it's figures now and will have live generation from every plant in the UK. We could then separate plants based on location. However getting this info is not guaranteed at all.

Other option is to contact the Scottish Gov or more likely the big operators.

corradio commented 6 years ago

Seems like there could be data available, based on this thread: https://twitter.com/eLEJOG/status/963118167865417729

corradio commented 6 years ago

I've talked to them and unfortunately for now the breakdown is not available

jarek commented 6 years ago

As has been brought up in Slack: there now exists http://carbonintensity.org.uk which has a regional breakdown of CO2eq intensity in Great Britain.

However this shows the consumption mix and not the raw production mix + exchanges we would need. Oli said he had asked National Grid for the raw data but I gather he hasn't gotten it.

The breakdown is also a little weird in that it shows imports for "London" zone as a separate category (and currently a considerable one at ~30%), but then also separately shows "nuclear" in London. There are no nuclear power plants within London, so the nuclear is also imported. Possibly these are accounting values as https://api.carbonintensity.org.uk/regional gives "UKPN London" and "Scottish Hydro Electric Power Distribution" which sound like companies?

corradio commented 6 years ago

Yes those would be DNOs (distribution).

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 7:17 PM jarek notifications@github.com wrote:

As has been brought up in Slack: there now exists http://carbonintensity.org.uk which has a regional breakdown of CO2eq intensity in Great Britain.

However this shows the consumption mix and not the raw production mix + exchanges we would need. Oli said he had asked National Grid for the raw data but I gather he hasn't gotten it.

The breakdown is also a little weird in that it shows imports for "London" zone as a separate category (and currently a considerable one at ~30%), but then also separately shows "nuclear" in London. There are no nuclear power plants within London, so the nuclear is also imported. Possibly these are accounting values as https://api.carbonintensity.org.uk/regional gives "UKPN London" and "Scottish Hydro Electric Power Distribution" which sound like companies?

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