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Problem with the use of element (Android) in Russia #8924

Closed Parodontitis closed 6 days ago

Parodontitis commented 1 week ago

Steps to reproduce

  1. Start element app.
  2. Click on "sing in".

Outcome

What did you expect?

New view to select server and insert credentials.

What happened instead?

The circle-arrow turns endlessly.

This only happens when using it in Russia. My assumption is that element is trying to establish a connection to matrix.org/federation at this point, which is not possible in Russia. Hence the endless circle.

But there is no possibility to skip this step and enter own server and user/passwd.

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Your phone model

oneplus 10 pro / Motorola

Operating system version

Android 13 / 14

Application version and app store

Element version 1.6.20 from F-Droid

Homeserver

Synapse

Will you send logs?

No

Are you willing to provide a PR?

No

bro2020 commented 1 week ago

Ask your country's government to stop attacking neighboring countries. This is the solution to your problem.

RomanApps commented 1 week ago

I really don’t get why Russians need Android — go back to button Nokias! Calls? It calls. Texts? It texts. And it’s been working for 15 years without a single update!

kononiuk commented 1 week ago

If your country kills and robs, you have problems. Elementary logic

Manifoldme commented 1 week ago

Ask your country's government to stop attacking neighboring countries. This is the solution to your problem.

I really don’t get why Russians need Android — go back to button Nokias! Calls? It calls. Texts? It texts. And it’s been working for 15 years without a single update!

If your country kills and robs, you have problems. Elementary logic

There's a thing about tribal insanity, you don't know you're afflicted with it, and so you brag about it in the most inappropriate place at the most inappropriate time, just like the Germans did with the Jews. Divide and rule the f plankton, nothing has changed.

Back to the main topic. I don't think the issue you raise can be solved by the Synapse developers. Unfortunately, the problem seems to lie at the regulatory level in Russia, the Western rulers are able to force the companies to build backdoors, so they don't have to ban directly something like basic encryption HTTPS or IPs on DNS level like Russia or China do. I suggest to get used to own a VPS in a neutral jurisdiction like Hezner servers in Singapore, self-host a VPN, for multi-users I would suggest Netbird and Headscale, for less amount of users just Wireguard, and deploy you Synapse or Dendrite on the same server as well.

RomanApps commented 1 week ago

Ask your country's government to stop attacking neighboring countries. This is the solution to your problem.

I really don’t get why Russians need Android — go back to button Nokias! Calls? It calls. Texts? It texts. And it’s been working for 15 years without a single update!

If your country kills and robs, you have problems. Elementary logic

There's a thing about tribal insanity, you don't know you're afflicted with it, and so you brag about it in the most inappropriate place at the most inappropriate time, just like the Germans did with the Jews. Divide and rule the f plankton, nothing has changed.

Back to the main topic. I don't think the issue you raise can be solved by the Synapse developers. Unfortunately, the problem seems to lie at the regulatory level in Russia, the Western rulers are able to force the companies to build backdoors, so they don't have to ban directly something like basic encryption HTTPS or IPs on DNS level like Russia or China do. I suggest to get used to own a VPS in a neutral jurisdiction like Hezner servers in Singapore, self-host a VPN, for multi-users I would suggest Netbird and Headscale, for less amount of users just Wireguard, and deploy you Synapse or Dendrite on the same server as well.

The whole civilized world knows how to respond to these kinds of provocations, and spoiler alert: history won’t exactly be on your side. But if you're set on those "tribal" takes, maybe it’s time to join some discussions in the local chats for your tribe, like on ok.ru.

kononiuk commented 1 week ago

There's a thing about tribal insanity, you don't know you're afflicted with it, and so you brag about it in the most inappropriate place at the most inappropriate time, just like the Germans did with the Jews. Divide and rule the f plankton, nothing has changed.

Is it necessary to mention tribes for individuals from the Stone Age? Go look for answers at the Cheburnet, not in the civilised world.

ShadowRZ commented 1 week ago

To me it looks like a duplicate of https://github.com/element-hq/element-android/issues/7078

However the conversation in this issue seems pretty unreasonable to me.

spaetz commented 6 days ago

Yes, EA first tries matrix.org and only then offers connections to other servers, IIRC. And if matrix.org is blocked by a country, login will not work. Not sure if this will be fixed, given that most attention goes into the Element-X clients nowadays.

ara4n commented 6 days ago

dup https://github.com/element-hq/element-android/issues/7078