certain aspects of mods not working for me

[mugmonster]

I'm missing the fog overlay at the observation deck, which is one of the fixes WineD3D is supposed to fix, but I know wine is working in other ways because the tunnel is properly black. Also the reshade filter doesnt seem to be active, it's not letting me take screenshots or anything. There might be some other issues I'm experiencing but I'm not entirely certain; for instance, the screenshot for the grammar fixes shows James commenting on Laura's graffiti, but when I'm at that wall it doesnt even let me interact, also in the room with the dead guy in front of the TV it wasnt playing the right background music until I went to another area with music and came back. I was told by the person who made the youtube demonstration video to include a screenshot of my game folder

[Polymega]

Hi @mugmonster would ZIP package your d3d8.log and d3d8.ini files here?

Also the reshade filter doesnt seem to be active

Yes, if WineD3D isn't working ReShade won't work, either. ReShade (OpenGL) is reliant on WineD3D's files to work.

the screenshot for the grammar fixes shows James commenting on Laura's graffiti, but when I'm at that wall it doesnt even let me interact

On the PC version, the spot you have to stand to interact with this wall is super precise. It's just one tiny sliver among the entire wall where James will comment on it.

also in the room with the dead guy in front of the TV it wasnt playing the right background music until I went to another area with music and came back.

This is how it's supposed to work. If you leave the room, come back into the room, and stay near the door you entered from, scary industrial music will start to play. The PS2 version is the same for this.

[mugmonster]

hmm I thought that room's music worked differently. when you first enter it before pyramid head appears, it sounds sort of like a clock, but when pyramid head is there and you see the dead body the music is more tense. for me, it was playing the clock music even when I left and re-entered, until I went to a different floor and came back, you're saying that's how it's supposed to be?

well anyway, here's the files d3d8check.zip

[Polymega]

Thank you. Hmm, so WineD3D doesn't seem to be working yet the white shaders bug is still fixed for you. If you temporarily remove the d3d9.dll, wined3d.dll, and libwine.dll files from the game's directory is the fog then restored (and the white shaders bug still fixed)?

[mugmonster]

nope, that brings the white shaders bug in without fixing the fog

[Polymega]

Have you installed the DirectX 9 SDK? https://www.microsoft.com/download/details.aspx?id=35

[mugmonster]

it says it "determined a newer version is installed already, no installation necessary." and isnt wine opengl anyway?

[Polymega]

Yes, it converts DirectX games to OpenGL. @elishacloud , sorry to get you involved, but would have any ideas on this?

[elishacloud]

isnt wine opengl anyway?

Yes, but we are using the Direct3D9 version of WineD3D and the game is running under Direct3D8. So we need to convert from Direct3D8 to Direct3D9 and then WineD3D can get enabled.

It looks like this:

sh2pc --> d3d8 --> d3d9 --> WineD3D --> ReShade --> OpenGL

We need DirectX 9 SDK for this step here: d3d8 --> d3d9

As far as the issue where you are missing the fog overlay at the observation deck, it looks like an issue with WineD3D. I am already working to try and remove the need for WineD3D, but that is still a ways off.

Edit: Is is possible for you to send me a screenshot of the observation deck with the missing fog?

[elishacloud]

Can you go the Advanced Settings and make sure that Fog is set to Complex?

[mugmonster]

it's definitely set to complex. if it weren't I'd be complaining about no fog, not just this one layer

[Polymega]

@mugmonster did you happen to update ReShade by chance? While not identical to your problem, another user had similar issues to where certain aspects of WineD3D weren't working and determined it was due to updating ReShade: https://github.com/elishacloud/Silent-Hill-2-Enhancements/issues/24

[mugmonster]

I only downloaded what was on the page (http://enhanced.townofsilenthill.com/SH2/files/SH2PC_ReShade_3.4.0_OpenGL.zip), I wouldnt even know this could be updated without any kind of prompt. also that person was still getting the white tunnel which I'm not, so wined3d seems to be doing Something

[Polymega]

We'll keep an eye out for solutions to this but we may need to ask you to be patient with us for, as Elisha mentioned, we're trying to fix what WineD3D fixes without having to use WineD3D, as using this application can be very finicky and temperamental. Another example/reason is that WineD3D can bog down lower-end PCs/laptops.

While the white shaders bug is an absolute eye-sore there are only three real instances of it happening in the game; at the beginning observation deck's tunnel and Woodside Apartment Room 209 and 101.

[mugmonster]

ah I dont mean to come off as impatient, I'm not in a rush with this or anything, I'm just trying to answer troubleshooting questions as they come up

[Polymega]

No, you didn't come off like that at all. :) WineD3D For Windows has been a pain in our sides for years now. As mentioned on the ticket about this, the majority of issues people come to us about when following the Installation Guide stems from implementing WineD3D. It'll be a great day once we can remove our need for this fix!

[mugmonster]

I only just noticed that elishacloud asked for screenshots the last time I was here. while I dunno if they'll help at this point, I probably should've provided some to begin with

compare those with screenshots from the youtube demonstration video (although while taking these shots I realized the fog is subtle and difficult to see when not in motion)

so yeah, black tunnel is there, fog is not, despite those both being related to wined3d

also I had to launch through Steam to take screenshots since I dont have the reshade option, and I noticed that when playing through Steam the game crashes when I try and open the Options menu, both when I do it in the middle of the game and through the start menu. I assume this has something to do with XInputPlus, because I dont get the chime indicating it's working when I load through steam, so I'm guessing there's some mixup with my controller mapping. it doesnt crash when I just open it up from the game's folder

[AeroWidescreen]

@mugmonster Have you tried enabling SteamCrashFix in the ini? It's in the [MISC] section.

[mugmonster]

oh right, I completely forgot that was a setting because it isnt one of the ones enabled by default, thanks lol

[elishacloud]

@mugmonster, I just added a fix for the 2D fog issue on Nvidia. You can download the patch for that here: d3d8.zip

[mugmonster]

that did the trick! all that work for such a subtle effect but I appreciate it!

[elishacloud]

Glad that worked for you! Are you still having any other issues or can we close this case out?

[mugmonster]

I completed my first playthrough the other day and didnt notice anything else. there was one instance of the ambient music skipping which I guess means the single core affinity isnt foolproof, but it went away as soon as I went to another area and loaded a different track

[elishacloud]

Yeah, the audio skipping is some thread deadlock issue. The single core affinity is just a band aid. However it works most of the time. I will close this for now. If you have any other issues you can reopen or file a new case. Thanks.