Elm Talks May

[madsflensted]

Details

• [x] Event: Talks
• [x] Date: June 15.
• [x] Hosts: @madsflensted and @ctrabold?
• [x] Venue sponsor: ThoughWworks
• [x] drinks sponsor: ThoughtWorks

Talks:

• @madsflensted Some Fundamentals of Elm
• @mpizenberg Testing in Elm
• @michal-jewel PureScript - another JavaScript-hosted strongly typed language like Elm

Videos by (Engineers.sg)[https://engineers.sg/] thanks to @hhandoko

Organizers tasks:

• [x] Announce on Meetup.com

[madsflensted]

Thoughworks have kindly agreed to host our Elm Talks events and we are scheduled for May 31.

@mpizenberg will you mark you calendar and select a talk?

I was thinking that i could do a Getting started with Elm talk.

And then I was wondering if @mgajda / @michal-jewel would consider giving a "Purescript and alternative to Elm" talk?

Anyone else up for doing an Elm talk?

We have approx 2 hours, so talks with length of 20-25 minutes?

[madsflensted]

@ctrabold do you know anybody who works with Elm?

[shishkin]

Cool, although I'll be travelling. Have fun!

[mpizenberg]

Yep sure, tomorrow I will make a poll to choose a talk, I will put the link in here. @madsflensted Regarding your getting started talk, I've recently prepared one for few of my co-workers. I send to you the slides through slack in case it can be of any use.

[mpizenberg]

Hi all again. So with the few projects I've been doing in elm, I could prepare a short talk (25 min?) on 1 of these subjects:

1. API and elm package creation
2. Participating in someone else's project (and community discussions channels)
3. Use of json encoders and decoders
4. Extending elm html events with "on"
5. Using SVG in elm
6. Struggling with the DOM
7. Using tests in elm
8. Throttling and debouncing using TEA
9. A simple "state monad" for debouncing

I've just created a poll available here: http://www.strawpoll.me/12884399 You can tell there which of those subjects interest you more. Subject with more interest wins :) (I might stop the poll around next sunday, the 14th).

[hhandoko]

Hi @madsflensted , would it be OK if Engineers SG record this upcoming talk?

[madsflensted]

Sure.

Will it increase the chance of you giving a short talk? ;-)

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Hi @madsflensted https://github.com/madsflensted , would it be OK if Engineers SG record this upcoming talk?

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[hhandoko]

Haha, not this one, perhaps the next one. This is what I'm working on as a learning platform: https://github.com/hhandoko/diskusi . Still plenty of things to do 😁

[madsflensted]

Looking forward to that talk :-) - later

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Haha, not this one, perhaps the next one. This is what I'm working on as a learning platform: https://github.com/hhandoko/diskusi . Still plenty of things to do 😁

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[madsflensted]

@mpizenberg would you be up for giving two of your talks? In case we don't hear back from @mgajda

[madsflensted]

Also I have drafted the invite on Meetup.com, if anyone wants to do some proof reading and/or have suggestions: https://www.meetup.com/Elm-Singapore/events/239875407/

[mpizenberg]

Hi, I could make one a bit longer, but I don't think I will have time for another. The current choice of the public is "Tests in elm" so that definitely could make a longer talk in case needed.

[mpizenberg]

For the draft @madsflensted I think only you and Arnaud can read it (organizers), so we can't proof read

[madsflensted]

@mpizenberg added you as co-organizer :-)

[madsflensted]

and with regards to the talks - let us just see how people react to the announcement, maybe somebody steps forward with something otherwise we will just use the time for adhoc dicsussions.

[michal-jewel]

Hi Mads,

Definitely can prepare it! — Cheers Michal

On 2 May 2017, at 9:04 PM, Mads Flensted-Urech notifications@github.com wrote:

Thoughworks have kindly agreed to host our Elm Talks events and we are scheduled for May 31.

@mpizenberg will you mark you calendar and select a talk?

I was thinking that i could do a Getting started with Elm talk.

And then I was wondering if @mgajda / @michal-jewel would consider giving a "Purescript and alternative to Elm" talk?

Anyone else up for doing an Elm talk?

We have approx 2 hours, so talks with length of 20-25 minutes?

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[michal-jewel]

I would like to see JSON encoders, decoders and JSON API usage. — Cheers Michal

On 3 May 2017, at 3:14 PM, Matthieu Pizenberg notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi all again. So with the few projects I've been doing in elm, I could prepare a short talk (25 min?) on 1 of these subjects:

• API and elm package creation • Participating in someone else's project (and community discussions channels) • Use of json encoders and decoders • Extending elm html events with "on" • Using SVG in elm • Struggling with the DOM • Using tests in elm • Throttling and debouncing using TEA • A simple "state monad" for debouncing I've just created a poll available here: http://www.strawpoll.me/12884399 You can tell there which of those subjects interest you more. Subject with more interest wins :) (I might stop the poll around next sunday, the 14th).

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[madsflensted]

Michal,

That is great! And means we have a full house on the talks side.

I will add you to the official announcement before it goes out tonight.

On May 11, 2017 09:25, "Michal J. Gajda" notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Mads,

Definitely can prepare it! — Cheers Michal

On 2 May 2017, at 9:04 PM, Mads Flensted-Urech notifications@github.com wrote:

Thoughworks have kindly agreed to host our Elm Talks events and we are scheduled for May 31.

@mpizenberg will you mark you calendar and select a talk?

I was thinking that i could do a Getting started with Elm talk.

And then I was wondering if @mgajda / @michal-jewel would consider giving a "Purescript and alternative to Elm" talk?

Anyone else up for doing an Elm talk?

We have approx 2 hours, so talks with length of 20-25 minutes?

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[madsflensted]

@hhandoko and @mgajda / @michal-jewel you both have offered to contact to Engineering.sg - just want to ensure that you are aware of each other.

[hhandoko]

Thanks @madsflensted . I am actually part of the Engineers.SG volunteer crew, I wasn't aware that @mgajda / @michal-jewel is too.

[michal-jewel]

Hi Mads!

Can we rename talk from “Purescript - an alternative to Elm”, to: “PureScript - another JavaScript-hosted strongly typed language like Elm”. — Cheers Michal

On 11 May 2017, at 11:05 AM, Mads Flensted-Urech notifications@github.com wrote:

Michal,

That is great! And means we have a full house on the talks side.

I will add you to the official announcement before it goes out tonight.

On May 11, 2017 09:25, "Michal J. Gajda" notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Mads,

Definitely can prepare it! — Cheers Michal

On 2 May 2017, at 9:04 PM, Mads Flensted-Urech notifications@github.com wrote:

Thoughworks have kindly agreed to host our Elm Talks events and we are scheduled for May 31.

@mpizenberg will you mark you calendar and select a talk?

I was thinking that i could do a Getting started with Elm talk.

And then I was wondering if @mgajda / @michal-jewel would consider giving a "Purescript and alternative to Elm" talk?

Anyone else up for doing an Elm talk?

We have approx 2 hours, so talks with length of 20-25 minutes?

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[mpizenberg]

"strong typing" does not seem to be well defined.

[hhandoko]

Just to (re)confirm, are both speakers OK for their talks to be recorded by Engineers.SG?

[michal-jewel]

Hi,

I am aware of attempts from dynamic programming language community to dilute meaning of the word “strong typing”, and effective noise on Wikipedia.

What about “typeful” or “statically typed” to avoid confusion?

I think typeful is the best :-).

One can also talk about higher order Hindley-Milner type system, but it sounds academic.

The most important question is: Would you really (as a human) make a mistake of misunderstanding the “strong typing” in this CONTEXT? If the likelihood of mistake is below 1%, then I would say that the sentence is unambiguous for the target audience. (Without delving deeper into philosophy of the language, and difference between logic of communication and boolean logic.) — Cheers Michal

On 15 May 2017, at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Pizenberg notifications@github.com wrote:

"strong typing" does not seem to be well defined.

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[michal-jewel]

I am.

On 15 May 2017, at 11:16 AM, Herdy Handoko notifications@github.com wrote:

Just to (re)confirm, are both speakers OK for their talks to be recorded by Engineers.SG?

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[michal-jewel]

PS Can you please also put my affiliation (Jewel Paymentech Pte Ltd).

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Just to (re)confirm, are both speakers OK for their talks to be recorded by Engineers.SG?

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[michal-jewel]

PS But I will attempt to fix the Wikipedia article. “Strong typing” is usually meant as “with the type system intended to express strong invariants about the code”. Such a definition has no need of precise requirement, just as a “strong man”, has no requirement of lifting exact 50kgs and up. — Have fun! Michal

On 15 May 2017, at 11:18 AM, Michal Gajda michal@jewelpaymentech.com wrote:

Hi,

I am aware of attempts from dynamic programming language community to dilute meaning of the word “strong typing”, and effective noise on Wikipedia.

What about “typeful” or “statically typed” to avoid confusion?

I think typeful is the best :-).

One can also talk about higher order Hindley-Milner type system, but it sounds academic.

The most important question is: Would you really (as a human) make a mistake of misunderstanding the “strong typing” in this CONTEXT? If the likelihood of mistake is below 1%, then I would say that the sentence is unambiguous for the target audience. (Without delving deeper into philosophy of the language, and difference between logic of communication and boolean logic.) — Cheers Michal

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"strong typing" does not seem to be well defined.

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[mpizenberg]

yep, ok for recording. Haha, I like the analogy with the strong man :)

[madsflensted]

@mgajda yes of course. Should have asked you for the title, sorry.

Will update tonight.

On May 15, 2017 11:33, "Matthieu Pizenberg" notifications@github.com wrote:

yep, ok for recording. Haha, I like the analogy with the strong man :)

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[madsflensted]

@michal-jewel I have updated the meeting desciption:

https://www.meetup.com/Elm-Singapore/events/239875407/

[madsflensted]

Ok - so we "have a sitiuation" - @mpizenberg needs to travel for his academic work on our planned meetup date! And personally I like the 3 talk combo we have lined up, so I want to look into rescheduling.

How do people feel about movining it 1 or 2 weeks?

[mpizenberg]

Hi all, really sorry about this, I just got the news on Friday, confirmed today. I wil be abroad from May 26th to June 4th.

[madsflensted]

@mpizenberg no worries - we are here to have fun :-)

I have reached out to ThoughtWorks to see if they can accomodate us in the weeks following.

@michal-jewel @hhandoko just mentioning you here, I guess you should be getting notifications from having participated in this thread, but just in case.

[hhandoko]

It's OK by me 😄

[madsflensted]

So TW is clear for both June 14 and 15

Speakers do you have any preference?

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It's OK by me 😄

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[madsflensted]

@michal-jewel @mpizenberg @hhandoko are you ok with June 15?

[mpizenberg]

Yes, June 15 is ok

[madsflensted]

@mgajda good for you as well?

On May 20, 2017 11:57, "Matthieu Pizenberg" notifications@github.com wrote:

Yes, June 15 is ok

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[hhandoko]

Yup, OK for 15 June 👌

[mgajda]

Yes! :-)

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Yup, OK for 15 June 👌

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[madsflensted]

Thanks all, I will proceed with TW and 15th

On May 22, 2017 11:16, "Michał J. Gajda" notifications@github.com wrote:

Yes! :-)

On 22 May 2017, at 9:27 AM, Herdy Handoko notifications@github.com wrote:

Yup, OK for 15 June 👌

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[madsflensted]

Ok - I have updated the meetup event. See you all on the 15th of June.

[mpizenberg]

Thank you Mads for all the organization!

[madsflensted]

@mgajda @mpizenberg @hhandoko are we ready for tomorrw?

I plan on being there a little after six o'clock to have time to set up.

[mpizenberg]

definitely not ready, but hey, there are 24h in a day ^^! Good idea, I should try to come a bit early also. Need any help for the organization?

[madsflensted]

Coming a bit early is good - but other than that just bring your "show" :-D

[michal-jewel]

I’m all set.

On 14 Jun 2017, at 8:49 PM, Mads Flensted-Urech notifications@github.com wrote:

@mgajda @mpizenberg @hhandoko are we ready for tomorrw?

I plan on being there a little after six o'clock to have time to set up.

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[madsflensted]

@hhandoko what time to you plan to arrive?

[mpizenberg]

elm_tests.pdf

[madsflensted]

Thank you all!