RinkeHoekstra
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6 months ago That's a brilliant idea!
However, CRITERIA is a Python package, so we'll have to look elsewhere. Open to suggestions!
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RinkeHoekstra
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6 months ago That's a brilliant idea!
However, CRITERIA is a Python package, so we'll have to look elsewhere. Open to suggestions!
lloyd-jackman-thomsonreuters
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4 months ago +1 for this idea as I am currently having to keep my TTL and mermaid diagrams in synch manually
RinkeHoekstra
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2 months ago Any thoughts on which Mermaid visualisation you'd like to see? Class diagrams or ER diagrams?
lloyd-jackman-thomsonreuters
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2 months ago Hello Rinke
The Class diagram would make more sense allowing for the creation of schema diagrams for types of nodes, their properties and relations. Such a view, based on the schema in the TTL, when pushed to mermaid would allow the view to then be pushed to Azure DevOps wiki pages with their native mermaid diagram support.
I can also imagine the utility in the ER diagram, but it would require OWL to be used to properly describe the cardinality of each relationship.
Thank you and best regards
Lloyd Jackman
Product Owner, DaaS Data Pipeline
London Stock Exchange Group
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RinkeHoekstra
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2 months ago The problem with class-diagrams or ER-diagrams is that they are class-based, not instance-based.
We can do one of the following:
Don't think there's a solution that's both elegant and satisfying
lloyd-jackman-thomsonreuters
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2 months ago CORPORATE
Hello Rinke
I agree that it is not simple, but I would prioritise the use case for creating a mermaid diagram for the schema of the graph as many graphs are simply too large to effectively see anything but spaghetti. Mermaid diagrams, in my experience, are used first and foremost in technical documentation and talking to people about the schema is the priority in documenting a graph. I think that the rationale of class and ER diagrams being class-oriented is relatively well understood.
The second point you make about guessing class information from instances is interesting but isn't simple for the reasons you mentioned. I had some good discussions with both StarDog and Cambridge Semantics on the subject of graphs without schemas in a previous professional capacity and there is an agreement with both of those vendors that well-structured graphs start with the schema and then have the instances implemented. It might be well worth a separate request to consider a functionality in Linked Data for creating a schema on the basis of instance data, but in reality, it is unlikely to be able to apply constraints in a very reliable manner. Perhaps such a feature should only be considered as a "get you going" schema in the same way as you might ask ChatGPT to draft something you for - subject to subsequent human review.
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It will be great to add the possibility of converting to Mermaid.
Maybe CRITERIA can be reused.