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Meeting minutes from the Ember.js core teams
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Please adopt the Mission Protocol for a safer and more inclusive experience #583

Open Pheromon opened 6 months ago

Pheromon commented 6 months ago

Hello, I'm a big supporter of this wonderful project (I think emberjs rocks web development) but I'm quite disappointed in seeing highly political and divisive statements on the top line of the main page on https://emberjs.com/.

As Tabarrok wrote in his good "small steps toward a better world" the ember community should focus on its aim and avoid topics that has nothing to do with the project and that only creates division and animosity between people with no other advantages.

You should adopt the Mission Protocol and change you documentation as explained in the code of conduct for a safer and more inclusive experience.

I opened an issue here because I could not find a better "meta" repository for this kind issue, feel free to direct me to better places, if any.

lifeart commented 6 months ago

Hi @Pheromon, thank you for you ticket.

I think it brings important and delicate topic and pushing adoption of some obligations (Mission Protocol).

I would not suggest to hard-push things like this, because Ember is a big community, may have a common opinion and of cause community members could have different opinions and concerns.

I would suggest to think about possible timelines for such statements. I do believe it may be very uncomfortable to delist some messages, especially if it touches delicate topics, and it's really hard to have such kind of moral power to manage it.

If we would have kinda 6 months timeline for statements, and once time come, core team may decide on every statement to keep it (for objective reasons or unpublish) it may reduce pressure on individuals who would like to rase such concerns, and in same time keep door opened for communication.

Pheromon commented 6 months ago

Thank you @lifeart for you reply.

I'm not hard-pushing: I'm just letting know that current ember policies are divisive and not inclusive and I personally know several people offended by ember heavy political statements.

I would like to start a discussion on the topic since they create hate without any kind of benefit (that I can see).

I think something like the Mission Protocol should make everybody happy because it directly address these kind of problems.