Open sadlerw opened 6 years ago
@ASprinkle This is up on staging. A few content-specific questions:
Do we need to say anything about maps, etc. in the Barlow and Hood districts? (We don't have maps for them and there wasn't any recommended roads (just not-suggested roads.)
I realized after reading through everything that some roads that we had listed as prohibited ... are actually roads that are suggested for cutting. So, you'll see some changes there based on the brochure. If that's wrong, let me know and we can change it back.
One last thing ... I typically recommend putting 'positive' information first. So, for example, it may make more sense to tell people what they can do first (ie. maps) ... and then tell them what they can't do (ie. prohibited roads). It can be sort of related to tone? This is not a 'we must change this because its wrong' kind of thing ... but more food for thought and discussion.
And ... I spoke too soon. One last last thing. :)
on the maps ... some of the road closures actually have nothing to do with the ranger districts mentioned in the map section. So, I do think we need to say something about what is going on for the other two districts .. if only to make it clearer about what roads go where.
@bryanmcfadden
Barlow and Hood River maps - they don't have Christmas tree maps. I would equate the Westside of Mt. Hood (Zigzag and Clackamas River) to the ARNF in terms of urban influence for program delivery. I would equate the Eastside of Mt. Hood (Barlow and Hood River) to the Shoshone in terms of program delivery. I agree - it does seem like we should address Barlow and Hood River Ranger Districts in the "cutting area maps" section so that people don't think the Clackamas and Zigzag are the only places to go. we could say "Christmas tree cutting is allowed on the Barlow and Hood River Ranger districts, maps are not available online and more information can be obtained at ranger district offfice." or something like that.
I am ok with putting positive information first- so long as the order of things is portrayed consistently for all forests.
I am not sure I understand what you're describing in terms of the listed of road closures, or prohibited roads. etc. Maybe we can clarify right after stand up today.
re: #478, #479, #480, and #428 In general, these look really good! However, some of the differences between the way rules are worded between different forest pages seem stylistic and not related to the meaning. Some rules convey the same meaning in a very different style. We need to establish a consistent style and tone.
For example:
From Mt. Hood
From ARP:
@MelissaBraxton I've gone through (with @bryanmcfadden and @sethalt) and made some adjustments so hopefully things are matching up a bit better. It should be out on staging soon. Some content, though, is more difficult than others to standardize.
The chainsaw one is somewhat difficult. ARP, for example, absolutely does not want axes mentioned in their content; Mt. Hood mentions axes. (Flathead and Shoshone don't mention either axes or chainsaws; in fact, Shoshone specifically allows chainsaws.) So ... we standardized the ARP and Mt. Hood content for that one particular bullet point? (@ASprinkle - if it doesn't read okay, let us know.)
The other area that is still difficult is the "footage away from campground ... etc." language ... it sounds very similar but the nuances are somewhat significant. We ended up standardizing where we thought it worked and left the rest alone.
Happy to meet and see if there's other content we can standardize (or discuss at the design session)?
Re Chainsaw comment: Since the following content is under helpful cutting tips: "Tools you might want to consider bringing with you include a hacksaw or axe to cut your tree; gloves to protect your hands; a tarp to sit on and/or to move your tree once its cut; and rope or straps to secure your tree to your vehicle." Why don't we re-word this so that it says: "Bring a tool to cut your tree down (subject to the Christmas tree cutting rules), and consider bringing gloves to protect your hands; a tarp to sit on and/or to move your tree once its cut; and something to secure your tree to your vehicle."
Footage away from campgrounds - I am curious what was standardized?
Go here and look at all of the changes - https://github.com/nciinc/fs-permit-platform/pull/534/files
Do not cut trees section - add two more things: "within administrative sites". and "within summer home/recreation residence areas"
Spoke with @ASprinkle ; we are going to leave the axe language as is for the forests. Also explained that we made some minor changes to the beginning of the sentence for two forests as it relates to campground distances, etc. (That content was very hard to standardize.) Two changes above and then its done.
@MelissaBraxton Is this one and the other three looking better?
This is looking much better. The tone is much more consistent. Minor thing - I'm curious why ARP is the only forest page that has "Remember: your safety is your responsibility." Can we remove it? @ASprinkle
I thought that was on all of the pages somewhere? Fine with me if we remove it, or if we add it to all the other pages. Either way - consistency is important. and having that statement on there is a "nice to have". We could make a story for this next sprint as a continued consistency of content where applicable review.
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