Erroneous CPU temperature display

[Papy-G]

From shelf temperature (room temperature is 26°) to SWISS display (powered from~1min) both show: Black DOL-001 34° seems OK Indigo DOL-001 54° Off by around 20° (if we consider the black as OK) Silver DOL-101 58° Off by the same amount as the Indigo (a little offset may be due to damaged thermal pads) All in the EUR-PAL flavour.

How can we help identify the different range thermal probes?

[Extrems]

By using a multimeter with a thermocouple directly touching the Gekko package.

[Extrems]

Complementary PVR and ECID data would be useful.

[Papy-G]

I once damaged thermal pads trying to pull the radiator off the Main Board, and would prefer not to have to risk it on my other consoles, plus, I don't have suitable gear to get accurate temperature. Isn't there documentation about the PPC thermal assist units to know how to convert their values to real-world ones?

Here are the numbers, to begin, they are tab-separated, for copy-paste to a calc sheet.

Black PVR 00083214 ECID 0D964300:0480C886:BE9EB048:FE1A3A08 Indigo PVR 00083214 ECID 0D966100:20A34085:AA6F6060:FE1C7870 Silver PVR 00083410 ECID 0D969000:2043C3CC:54466830:FE1E8E63

[Extrems]

They are "real world ones", but IBM says it can be off by -20°C to +10°C due to production variances. We're using a calibration for the -20°C case.

[Papy-G]

Wow! And I felt concerned about accuracy…

So let's go for a -20°C offset, and hope variances are just a few and happen by huge batches, so that it can be applied until/from a production date. Still, people will have to feedback their numbers to help finetune the said date.

[Extrems]

You mean +20°C, which it already is.

[Papy-G]

So the cubes that I have that seems off aren't, as there is a +20°C offset that is applied, based on the ones you had tested to calibrate the temp display at first?

[alucryd]

Same here, just picobooted a black dol 001, replacing all pads with new ones, cold boot indicates 54C, it goes above 60 after gaming for a while, yet the air pushed by the fan isn't that hot, and feels similar to an unmodded cube to the touch.

Planning to do the same to a purple one tomorrow, will see how much of a difference it has. Granted I used a fairly cheap brand on the CPU as I couldn't find 2mm arctic pads, and other known brands at 2mm are ridiculously expensive. Might bite the bullet and go thermalright or gelid later if it turns out the cheap pad is really bad and sensor is right.

[Extrems]

Please provide your PVR and ECID.

[alucryd]

There you go.

PVR: 00083214 ECID: 0D960100:1040C34C:9494F0C0:FE143CF3

Room temperature was 28C (probably less, thermometer is higher than the console), and the cold boot I just performed to get this information showed 46C in Swiss. We do seem to be looking at the 20C difference you mentioned.

[Papy-G]

As of brand new SWISS release 1362, room temperature 24°C, started up as fast as I can with WWH, so there's the chart, coma separated as tab are truncated from the posts:

Alucryd,Black NTSC? 001,PVR 00083214,ECID 0D960100:1040C34C:9494F0C0:FE143CF3,28/46 Papy.G,Black PAL 001,PVR 00083214,ECID 0D964300:0480C886:BE9EB048:FE1A3A08,24/26 Papy.G,Indigo PAL 001,PVR 00083214,ECID 0D966100:20A34085:AA6F6060:FE1C7870,24/50 Papy.G,Silver PAL 101,PVR 00083410,ECID 0D969000:2043C3CC:54466830:FE1E8E63,24/46

[Nonstiq]

I have an orange NTSC-J 001 running a GC Loader. PVR: 00083214 ECID: 0D960200:10A3480D:02455850:FE188048 Room temp approx 20C Cold boot temp in Swiss 18C

[hts739]

Silver ntsc-u 001 gc loader PVR: 00083214 ECID: 0D96A280:2480C80D:828F5010:FE1D2248 Ambient temperature: 25C Cold boot swiss: flickered between 18C and 22C for about 3 seconds before setting on 22C.

[cadegerardy]

Silver DOL-101(USA) Starts from cold boot at 45-46° Celsius in swiss 1362 CPU ECID: 0D968000:3043C3C9:14C51098:FE1F3213 CPU PVR: 00083410 Im Using PicoBoot and the room temp. is 24.4° Celsius Outside temp is 33.3° Celsius here After about 5 minutes from coldboot it shows 54-58° Celsius and is flickering back and forth pretty fast

[N0ciple]

I have a Indigo DOL-001(EUR), modded with picoboot (v0.1) When cold booting, the temperature start at 34°C, flickers a bit between 34 and 38°C and then stabilizes arround 46°C. Room temperature is 26°C. CPU ECID : 3D96A280:2480C80A:822C70B0:FE1F3248 CPU PVR : 00083214

[Fanturner]

black eur dol-001 gcloader swiss 1362 When cold booting, the temperature start at 30°C, first flickers a bit between 30 and 34°C and then flickers a bit between 34 and 38°C, finally stabilizes arround 38°C. Room temperature is 26.4°C. CPU ECID : 0D964100:00C0C08E:3EB990A8:FE12A2C8 CPU PVR : 00083214

[djinc91]

Indigo NTSC DOL-001 swiss 1362 - GC Loader CPU ECID : 0D96C180:3040C18F:218B10C0:FE102121 CPU PVR : 00083214 Boot Temp - 18°C Room Temp - 18°C

[Duckbuster]

Black EUR DOL-001 PicoBoot (v1) SWISS 1362 When cold booting, the temperature starts at 26°C, stabilizes around 30°C. Room temperature is 27.1°C. CPU ECID : 0D96E000:0480CB0A:BEB990E8:FE10BCBB CPU PVR : 00083214

[Diegorella]

here is the exact data: DOL 101 USA chassis 50

CPU: 00083214 ECID: 0D96C000:2020C08E:A1B19048:FEEDA820

start temperature: 45°C In Swiss: 50-54°C after forcing the system with Mprime: 66-70°C

[Jon8RFC]

24c ambient 26c cold boot 38c after sitting in Swiss a while

Silver DOL-001 with GCLoader NTSC Revision 1.1 00083214 OD969100:04COC386:0E5C3020:FE17827B

[16BitWonder]

Indigo NTSC v1.1 DOL-001 swiss 1387 - GC Loader (2.0.0) CPU ECID: 0D96E300:3800C30E:3EDD3050:FE1E8AF3 CPU PVR: 00083214 Boot Temp - 36°C Idle Temp - 46°C Room Temp - 21°C

[ArchaicBubba]

Indigo NTSC V1.1 DOL-001 Swiss 1387 - Picoboot v0.2/cubeboot v0.1.2 CPU ECID: 1D964100:184OC18B:A13DA068:FE10B4C1 CPU PVR: 00083214 Boot Temp: 42°C Idle Temp: 46°C Room Temp: 23°C

[ThexXTURBOXx]

NTSC Revision 1.1 DOL-001(USA) Swiss 1387 - Picoboot v0.2 with FlippyBoot-IPL v0.1.3 CPU ECID: 0D962080:2840C816:268B1030:FE15A8B8 CPU PVR: 00083214 Boot Temp: 36°C Idle Temp: 42°C to 46°C Room Temp: ~24°C

[DorDur215]

Silver DOL-001(EUR) (PAL 1.0) Swiss commit a79823d rev1387 / Picoboot v0.2 Cold Boot: 18°C Idle Temp: 30°C after 30 minutes in swiss menu Room Temp: ~20°C CPU PVR: 00083214 CPU ECID: 0D96A000:2022C0C2:148BE050:FE1614B8

[emukidid]

Platinum DOL-001 (PAL 1.0) Qoob PRO -> IPLBoot -> Swiss Cold Boot: 26°C Idle Temp: 34°C after 30 minutes in swiss menu Room Temp: 24°C CPU PVR: 00083214 CPU ECID: 0D962000:20A34547:94CD28D0:FE1C2E45

Black DOL-001 (PAL 1.0) GCLoader Cold Boot: 30°C Idle Temp: 38°C after 30 minutes in swiss menu Room Temp: 24°C CPU PVR: 00083214 CPU ECID: 2D962080:0480CB00:BE3DA868:FE17142B

Indigo DOL-001 (PAL 1.0) WODE Cold Boot: 22°C Idle Temp: 34°C after 30 minutes in swiss menu Room Temp: 24°C CPU PVR: 00083214 CPU ECID: 8D966300:1023408F:AAA06808:FE15AAD0

Indigo DOL-001 (PAL 1.0) Wiikey Fusion Cold Boot: 26°C Idle Temp: 38°C after 30 minutes in swiss menu Room Temp: 24°C CPU PVR: 00083214 CPU ECID: 0D96E000:10A34307:3E510890:FE1C5633

[rapperskull]

Indigo DOL-001 (PAL 1.0) Original disc drive Room temperature: ~24 °C Cold boot: 22 °C After 30 minutes: 34 °C CPU PVR: 00083214 CPU ECID: 0D964200:0400CB03:BE5C6890:FE17B6AB

[blockfeed]

Room: 23C Swiss v0.6r1387 All "silent-fan" modded Temperatures taken from cold start to info screen (approx 10 sec)

NICKNAME, BOOTMETHOD, MODEL, ECID, CPU TEMP
Panasonic Q, WASP, DOL-001(JPN), 0D961000:0843430D:1CCBB090:FE19A813, 42C
Black, X8N0 chip + latest dol, DOL-101(USA), 1D960100:24COC18F:A123A860:FE184151, 30C
Silver, WASP, DOL-001(USA), 0D964300:1800CB02:9C621850:FE14746B, 54C
Purple, Picoboot + SD2SP2, DOL-001(USA), 0D962300:28COC388:0E71B028:FE1FAE3B, 22C
Orange, GCLoader, DOL-001(USA), 8D969080:08C3454C:1447E870:FE1C5245, 30C

[TobiX]

Room: 20.9°C Swiss v0.6r1387 Boot: XenoGC clone + old DOL on disc + chainloading to latest on SD2SP2

Nickname, Model, PVR, ECID, CPU TEMP
Black, DOL-001(EUR), 00083214, 0D96C200:0400CB0B:3E58A820:FE17BACB, 26°C
Orange, DOL-001(JPN), 00083214, 0D96C000:08C0C082:BE01B0B0:FE1D9138, 22°C

Interestingly, both went up to 30°C while I was noting down the PVR & ECID and stayed there...

[tree-frog]

Room: 20°C (Steady-State for >12 hrs) Swiss: v0.6r1387 Boot: GC Loader 2.0.0

Nickname, Model, PVR, ECID: Black, DOL-001(USA), 00083214, 9D96E280:0843488A:2A4B0818:FE1C9A98

Temperature Curve: 0 sec - 18°C 5 sec - 22°C 120 sec - 26°C 300 sec - 30°C

[coolbho3k]

Ambient: 19.2°C Boot temp: 26C Swiss: v0.6r1387 GC Loader 2.0.0

DOL-001 (USA), 00083214, 0D968200:38214A08:1C584888:FE17A00A

Color is unknown as motherboard was replaced

Thermal pads are also replaced and I'm using a more powerful fan.

[AceCuba]

NTSC Revision 1.1 Purple New thermalpad and Fan DOL-001(USA) Swiss 1443 - Picoboot v0.2 with FlippyBoot-IPL v0.1.3 CPU ECID: 0D962080:0400CBOB:48D060:FE15114B CPU PVR: 00083214 Boot Temp: 38-42 °C Idle Temp: 46°C to 50°C Game :54-58 c Room Temp: ~24°C

[stoickish]

I've got: NTSC Revision 1.1, Black, New Thermal Pads & Noctua Fan DOL-001(USA) GC Loader 2.0.0 Swiss version 0.6, Commit 65aa702 Revision 1476 CPU PVR: 00083214 CPU ECID: 0D964000:3080C306:3EFB7008:FE1411B3

The display in Swiss always says 2°C and does not change. I assume this is either a software bug or just a faulty temperature sensor.

[TiberiumFusion]

Adding my data to the fire:

• Swiss always reports 50°C from cold boot. Temp stays at 50 while idling in swiss menu indefinitely. Intermittent flickers to 54.
• 21°C ambient
• Swiss 0.6 r1495
• Stock DOL-001 NTSC with IPL 1.0, zero modifications
• PVR: 00083214
• ECID: 9D96A280:30434945:1438E048:FE1310A9

[lauti29]

Black Gamecube: DOL-001 (EUR) IPL: 1.0 PVR: 00083214 ECID: 0D969200:0800CB84:0E4D5068:FE13B42B

Coolboot: 36-38º Idle: 42-46º Ingame: 46-48º

Swiss 0.6, Commit d2874eb Revision 1527