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Jihvāmūlīya as independent "character" #154

Closed danbalogh closed 3 years ago

danbalogh commented 3 years ago

So far, I've only ever seem upadhmānīya and jihvāmūlīya conjoined to the following akṣara, but I know that some modern scripts use these signs (when they use them at all) in a semi-independent way, so that they appear, like visarga, after the preceding akṣara. Now for the first time, I've come across a jihvāmūlīya used in this way in a late (11th-century) Eastern Cālukya plate: yoxka (yoẖ ka). I propose that I add this under TG '3.3.8, "Unusually composed complex characters", with an optional transliteration yo=ẖ ka (and perhaps also in the EGD, §4.1.1, with the encoding yoẖ ka), in case someone wishes to make it explicit that an upadhmānīya or jihvāmūlīya is not part of a conjunct with the next character which should, imo, remain the default interpretation. Arlo, please let me know what you think of this. It may be an unnecessary complication, which I normally tend to avoid, so if you wish to, it will be easy to persuade me to drop this and just mention the issue in the palaeographic description.

arlogriffiths commented 3 years ago

As a matter of curiosity, what would a normal visarga look like? The figure 8 cannot be read as a plain visarga?

I have never seen anything like this. But If you are sure of your interpretation then, yes, I would like our TG to allow making a distinction from the normal use of jihvāmūlīya, and the manner you propose seems good.

danbalogh commented 3 years ago

A normal visarga would be just a pair of plain dots. That is so in all EC plates I've ever seen, including elsewhere in this one. I too have never seen anything like this, but it does resemble a Kannada jihvāmūlīya, ೱ. And a visarga is expected here, so I'm as sure as one can be: can't think of anything other than a jihvāmūlīya that it could plausibly be.

arlogriffiths commented 3 years ago

Thanks. Then's say go for it, and cite the Kannada jihvāmūlīya, ೱ, in the new TG item.

danbalogh commented 3 years ago

Thanks for the opinion. Done in the TG.