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proper sign for virāma #36

Closed arlogriffiths closed 5 months ago

arlogriffiths commented 1 year ago

I see that some (or all?) of Chloé's files use ∙ instead of · (keyboard ABC extended option+shift+9) for virāma.

Please correct all cases in your files. Best to do so one by one, because • may also occur as punctuation sign. At least it does in the files of some other team members.

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arlogriffiths commented 6 months ago

Is still still an issue?

@michaelnmmeyer : can you help check if ∙ occurs in any places right after a consonant and without <g> tag?

michaelnmmeyer commented 6 months ago

We have about a hundred occurrences in these files:

DHARMA_INSCIK00044.xml

DHARMA_INSCIK00111.xml DHARMA_INSCIK00173.xml DHARMA_INSCIK00174.xml DHARMA_INSCIK00211.xml DHARMA_INSCIK00215.xml DHARMA_INSCIK00216-N1.xml DHARMA_INSCIK00216-N2.xml DHARMA_INSCIK00216-S.xml DHARMA_INSCIK00573.xml DHARMA_INSSiddham00192.xml

Le dim. 7 avr. 2024 à 05:33, arlogriffiths @.***> a écrit :

Is still still an issue?

@michaelnmmeyer https://github.com/michaelnmmeyer : can you help check if ∙ occurs in any places right after a consonant and without tag?

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arlogriffiths commented 6 months ago

Thanks @michaelnmmeyer.

Please check the checkbox when you're done, after which I'll close this issue.

danbalogh commented 6 months ago

In Siddham00192, the instance is in an XML comment that may in the course of time be converted into an apparatus note: "L4. G prints "Bappakah∙", which may have been meant for jihvāmūlīya, which is clear in the rubbing." I think this should stay as is, and only instances of ∙ in the text of editions should be checked.

chhomkunthea commented 6 months ago

Dear Arlo,

I see that there are nine Cambodian inscriptions in the list. The two kinds of dot representing virāma look very similar on Oxygen Editor. I can manually replace the wrong dot with the right one. But I don’t understand about “implementing a suitable encoding with ”.

Best, Kunthea

On 8 Apr 2024, at 14:27, arlogriffiths @.***> wrote:

Thanks @michaelnmmeyer https://github.com/michaelnmmeyer.

@chhomkunthea https://github.com/chhomkunthea : could you check all K. files listed by Michaël and convert any cases of • that represent virāma to ·, while implementing a suitable encoding with in all other cases? Let me know if there are any cases where you hesitate about what is meant.

@danbalogh https://github.com/danbalogh : can you check the case in Siddham00192?

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arlogriffiths commented 6 months ago

I mean that if and only if you find cases where ∙ is clearly not intended to represent virāma but rather represents a symbol, then you should replace it not by · but by <g> or <g>.</g> with appropriate @type inside <g> — in other words, you should then encode it following EGD 4.2.3 or 4.2.4 (gdoc version).

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danbalogh commented 6 months ago

@chhomkunthea , if you have any difficulties with the encoding, you can also turn to me. I was planning to talk to you about some complex layouts sometime soon, after Michaël and I have discussed what would be the best strategy for going forward.

chhomkunthea commented 6 months ago

Yes, it is now clear. Thank you! I’ll start correcting the files soon.

Best, Kutnhea

On 9 Apr 2024, at 11:52, arlogriffiths @.***> wrote:

I mean that if and only if you find cases where ∙ is clearly not intended to represent virāma but rather represents a symbol, then you should replace it not by · but by or . with appropriate @type https://github.com/type inside — in other words, you should then encode it following EGD 4.2.3 or 4.2.4 (gdoc version).

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chhomkunthea commented 6 months ago

Thank you! Look forward to hearing from you about the complex layouts.

Best, Kunthea

On 9 Apr 2024, at 14:56, Dániel Balogh @.***> wrote:

@chhomkunthea https://github.com/chhomkunthea , if you have any difficulties with the encoding, you can also turn to me. I was planning to talk to you about some complex layouts sometime soon, after Michaël and I have discussed what would be the best strategy for going forward.

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