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There are questions about how or if this should be done.
- The Pictures are all that really needs to be mapped, the database might be
able to stay in source location. (But need to think about Collages and movies
put there)
- Could PS just stay at its started location? (might even be local drive using
shared settings).
What other features of RunPicasa should we add?
Original comment by earlb...@gmail.com
on 5 Nov 2011 at 10:36
I don't know what RunPicasa does now. Is it best to just mimic the drive letter
assignments as it is done now in the .bat or not?
Original comment by pieter.r...@gmail.com
on 8 Nov 2011 at 10:33
What RunPicasa does now is map the directory or drive that contains the
pictures directory to the drive letter those pictures were referenced to in the
index.
By convention (or consensus) that folder also contained the database for those
pictures, so:
root dir\
\Pictures
\PicasaStarter
\Database base folder
(Bryan used PicasaStarter\ as the database base folder)
When these were set up they were set up for a drive (like P:\) as the root dir,
and then they were copied to a network or shared folder. RunPicasa maps this
network or shared folder back to P: so the pictures will be in the correct
place for the database.
When you think about it tho, the only thing that really needs to be mapped to
the drive is the pictures folder because Picasastarter can create the symlink
for the database no matter where it is (subject to the limitations of symlinks
and the XP work-around.)
I think, in order for PS to do this mapping it is going to need to know where
the Picture directory is now and where it needs to be mapped to. RunPicasa had
it easy because we specified that it had to be in the root dir as shown above,
so it knew where the folder was coming from and we only had to tell it the
destination.
For PS we are probably going to have to either specify all these directories or
do it by convention. PS is not necessarily going to be in the
root\PicasaStarter directory, It's settings xml file is not necessarily going
to be there either, although maybe this could be a convention (But a settings
file could have entries for several databases)
(to be continued, I was called to dinner! ;-)
Original comment by earlb...@gmail.com
on 9 Nov 2011 at 1:31
This stuff is making me dizzy, there are too many options!
Is it reasonable to require that any set of pictures/db that are going to be
mapped to a different drive letter be in the format shown above? (that is a
"root" folder with a subdirectory for pictures, one for PicasaStarter, and the
database folder somewhere in that root path.
This way, at least the PicasaStarter settings xml file would be in the
PicasaStarter folder and PS would therefore know the "From" root folder, Then
we would only have to tell it the "To" drive (might even be able to get that
from the txt file in the DB).
This would be a LOT simpler.
Maybe all we would need is a "Remap if necessary" Button.
Original comment by earlb...@gmail.com
on 9 Nov 2011 at 2:54
Yep, indeed loads of options...
Just to add some more:
1) We could save the name or the serial number of the external disk and search
for it, and remap it when starting PicasaStarter?
2) We could show a popup when starting PicasaStarter or pushing runPicasa if
the drive letter is not available asking which drive corresponds to the one
needed...
For what cases did you make RunPicasa.bat?
Original comment by pieter.r...@gmail.com
on 9 Nov 2011 at 7:09
It is a good idea to think about why it is needed. Here is my take on it.
- A Picasa Picture and DB set must be set up to run from a particular drive and
directory.
- When you plug in a USB or network drive the drive gets mapped to the next
available drive letter by default, and this drive may not be the one the
Pictures were set up to be on.
-Run Picasa's #1 job was to Map or Subst the network or USB drive\directory to
the correct drive letter it was set up for.
- A secondary purpose was to allow the user to have several Picture/DB sets all
designed to run on the same drive (Like P:) and automatically map the one we
want to use now to that drive. This allows you to have a number of different
picture sets.
Original comment by earlb...@gmail.com
on 9 Nov 2011 at 7:57
One more possible thing for this drive mapping is, right now we tell the user
to put a physical drive on the drive letter he wants to use for the pictures,
and then use Picasa to move all his pictures to the new drive. PicasaStarter
could map a folder to that drive letter, and the user could move the pictures
to that subst drive rather than have to have a partition put on that drive
letter.
Original comment by earlb...@gmail.com
on 9 Nov 2011 at 8:14
I wonder...
What would happen with Picasa if it moved a folder to another drive, and then
found out it couldn't complete the move because it couldn't erase the source
folder??
If this happened in a copy of the database for that folder, would the copy have
it's database updated to the new folder location? If so, the copy would be on
the new drive, and if you went back to the original database it would still be
pointing back at the original folder with the pictures still there.
This might be useful for duplication a set without having to restore the
original.
Original comment by earlb...@gmail.com
on 9 Nov 2011 at 8:24
My Comment 7 doesn't work, because when you try to run PS for the first time on
a subst drive, when PS asks for elevated priveleges to initialize the Symlink,
it fails with "Admin priveleges not allowed by operator".
I think I remember something about the subst drive only being for the current
user, not admin.
This could be a real problem, that there must be a real drive there for the
first time??
Original comment by earlb...@gmail.com
on 9 Nov 2011 at 10:01
It works fine though with a network dir mapped to a drive letter.
Then after that is used once creating the Symlink the subst drive works just
fine, it just won't create the link from the subst drive
Original comment by earlb...@gmail.com
on 9 Nov 2011 at 10:20
One more observation on the Symlink / subst thing (Comments 7 & 9)
If I subst a folder on D: to make it the N: drive, then try to run PS on that
drive, it fails with the error in 9 above. BUT if I go to an elevated command
prompt (Run CMD as admin) and do the same subst, then PS creates the symlink
ok. It sounds like we will need to do the subst thing in admin and in user the
first time s the drive will be found when the link is to be created.
Well, that was fun!....Yeah, riiight...I think I'll do something else for a
while..
Original comment by earlb...@gmail.com
on 10 Nov 2011 at 12:00
Nice catch!
Original comment by pieter.r...@gmail.com
on 10 Nov 2011 at 8:49
Pieter:
I was trying to play with the code a little, but can't so far get it right.
When PS calls itself to do the symlink thing with elevated privs, before
checking for /createsymboliclink, PS loads all the settings etc and does the
checks for the settings file. None of this stuff is needed for creating the
symlink, and it really gets in the way if the target drive is a subst drive,
because the drive is no longer there when elevated to admin. So anyway I am
trying to move the create symlink stuff to the beginning, but haven't gotten
there yet.
Original comment by earlb...@gmail.com
on 10 Nov 2011 at 9:23
Yep, code refactoring is sometimes needed, but isn't always easy...
Original comment by pieter.r...@gmail.com
on 10 Nov 2011 at 9:42
I think basic functionality would be that if the picture drive didn't exist,
you would map the root of the settings directory to the picture drive root ( P:
for instance).
Root of the settings would be X:\Pics if the settings was in
X:\Pics\PicasaStarter, or X: if the settings were in X:\picasastarter)
This does require that the pictures and PicasaStarter have the same root folder.
We have 3 cases to worry about, settings dir is on local drive, mapped network
drive, or UNC path.
Original comment by earlb...@gmail.com
on 11 Nov 2011 at 5:02
Added the basics for this feature, and calling it Virtual Drive feature instead
of RunPicasa features. The user sets the virtual drive to be mapped in the
database configuration window and checks a check box that allows remapping of
drive if necessary. When the database is selected, PS checks to see if the
drive exists, and if not, it maps the directory the PicasaStarter folder is in
to the virtual drive letter.
This assumes that the directory below the PicasaStarter directory contains the
picture directories, and it will usually contain the database "base" directory:
Containing folder\ <-- The folder to be mapped to the Virtual drive.
\PicasaStarter <-- Contains the PicasaStarter settings file & PicasaStarter.exe.
\Pictures\ <-- Contains all Picture folders & pictures.
\Database <-- Contains the Database for the Pictures (on Virtual drive).
Original comment by earlb...@gmail.com
on 2 Dec 2011 at 3:29
Original issue reported on code.google.com by
earlb...@gmail.com
on 3 Nov 2011 at 9:27