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Tracking of typos, errors, and improvements for "The Principles and Practice of Physics"
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twirling bucket #124

Open JohnDenker opened 8 years ago

JohnDenker commented 8 years ago

Pertaining to checkpoint 11.3(b) in section 11.2 on page 261 the answer given on page A-41 is No.

However, the correct answer is yes. This is obvious to anyone who has ever done the experiment.

The explanation on page A-41 misses a fundamental physics principle:

We agree that when the rope is horizontal, the bucket is subject to a vertical acceleration. However, acceleration is not the end of the world. Nothing in the diagram or in the statement of the problem requires steady purely-rotational motion. The fact is, the rope can be horizontal. With modest effort you can keep it horizontal for a half-second or more.

To summarize, to paraphrase an old VW advertisement: You can definitely do it, although you can't do it indefinitely.

Let's not quibble about "exactly" horizontal. When I say horizontal, I mean that the average slope is so small as to be irrelevant to the dynamics of the system.

Suggestions:

  1. You could reword the problem to restrict attention to steady, purely-horizontal motion.
  2. Perhaps better, you could leave the question as-is, and make it a lesson in real-world problem-solving. Change the answer to cover both the restricted case and the unrestricted case. Often the best way to deal with an underspecified problem is to write down the entire solution-set, along with a few words of explanation.

Just because the methods presented in chapter 11 are restricted to motion in the plane does not mean that real-world problems will magically restrict themselves accordingly.