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Tracking of typos, errors, and improvements for "The Principles and Practice of Physics"
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categories of energy ... or not #185

Open JohnDenker opened 8 years ago

JohnDenker commented 8 years ago

Consider figure 7.12 in section 7.4 on page 156 ... including the un-numbered equation

 E = K + U + E_s + E_th

and the words that go along with it. Overall, this figure express seriously incorrect physics.

In addition to the issues raised in item #35 and item #36, here is another way of seeing why it cannot possibly be correct.

Let's pursue these two ideas.

Operationally, at this level of detail, it's hard to distinguish the two. In the real world, some trucks ride on steel springs, while others ride on air springs.

At the level of fundamental physics, the close correspondence continues. If you have a single particle in a box and move the walls inward, the energy goes up. The story is essentially the same if you have an enormous number of particles in the box; if you move the walls inward, the energy goes up.

The temperature-dependence of the pressure is different in the two cases, because the electron gas is degenerate ... but I consider this to be a detail, irrelevant to the principle of the thing, irrelevant to the fundamental concept of pressure.

Here's another way of saying almost the same thing: According to figure 7.12, the E_th term is characterized as «incoherent» while the U term (including elasticity) is characterized as «coherent». However,

So, unless you think quantum fluctuations are somehow less «incoherent» than thermal fluctuations, both the gas and the metal are entirely dependent on incoherent processes when they resist compression. (The positive ion cores in the metal keep the electrons from expanding too much, but obviously they cannot prevent the electron gas from contracting; indeed, the more the Fermi gas contracts the happier the ion cores are.)

The entropy of the Fermi gas is less than the entropy of the ideal gas, but that's irrelevant if we compress both boxes adiabatically. (I mean adiabatic in both senses of the word: thermally isolated and isentropic.) Classical physics is sensitive only to differences in entropy, and there aren't any in this scenario.

Tangential remark: The thing we are calling elastic potential energy, as part of U, comes mainly from the kinetic energy of the atomic electrons. That's not the main point I want to emphasize, but it counts as one more reason why the categories set forth in figure 7.12 cannot withstand scrutiny.

Suggestion:

This whole section should just go away. It's wrong in principle and wrong in practice. It's wrong operationally, pedagogically, and in every other way. If the index is to be believed, source energy is introduced on pages 156-158 and then never used again. I find that it is mentioned on page 547, but in that case it is immediately set to zero, so E_s seems quite expendable. Similarly, E_th is used, as far as I can tell, only in situations where it is equal to the total energy, so E_th also seems quite expendable.

Generally speaking, the laws of physics depend on the overall undivided energy. The more ways you divide up the energy, the more likely you are to make a mistake.

Minor additional suggestion:

Most of the equations in the book are already numbered, so it seems ironic that one of the equations that most needs a number doesn't have one.