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inconsistent concept of "work" #186

Open JohnDenker opened 8 years ago

JohnDenker commented 8 years ago

Short version: In a situation where Q=0, the equation ΔE = W + Q says that work changes the energy. Meanwhile, the work/KE theorem says that work changes the _kinetic_ energy. You can't have it both ways.

Longer version: Consider the "categories of energy" equation as discussed in item #185, namely the un-numbered equation inside the box inside figure 7.12 in section 7.4 on page 156, i.e.

E = K + U + E_s + E_th

Also consider the energy law as set forth in equation 20.1 in section 20.5 on page 547, i.e.

ΔE = W + Q

Also consider the definition of work, as set forth in equation 9.22 in section 9.7 on page 220, i.e.

W = ∫ F dx which is restated as an un-numbered equation on page 547.

My point is, those equations are not consistent ... even though they are used together. One is substituted into another on page 547, so we cannot escape the inconsistency by saying they are valid under distinct assumptions.

To see the inconsistency, consider using a thermally-insulating pushrod to exert an upward force on a box of gas, raising it slowly and reversibly against the force of gravity. Since the F in the definition of W in equation 9.22 is the total force (aka net force), the work done in this scenario is zero. This is consistent with the work/KE theorem; the KE is negligible before, during, and after the operation. However, the potential energy U has increased. The other terms on the RHS of the "categories" equation are unchanged, so E has increased. This is alas inconsistent with the ΔE= W+Q law.

Some authors try to get around this by writing ΔU=W+Q, where U is the «internal» energy, but that has its own problems.

Overall I'm not sure what is the best way to fully resolve the inconsistency ... but "something" needs to be done.

This is yet another reason why it is not humanly possible to make sense of the discussion on page 547, as discussed in item #36.

Suggestion:

The first step in fixing this problem is to get rid of the "categories" equation. Additional arguments leading to the same conclusion can be found in item #185 and #35.

Also:

Note that I am considering the gravitational potential energy to be internal to "the system" while whatever is driving the pushrod is external. One could define the gravitational potential energy to be external, and there would be some logic in that ... but it would be unconventional. It would require an elaborate explanation and frequent reminders.

JohnDenker commented 8 years ago

Here's another manifestation of the same misconception:

In section 9.1 on page 203 there is a "conceptual" yet very specific definition. It says

Work is the change in the energy of a system due to external forces.

This is however inconsistent with the "quantitative" development, starting with equation 9.1 on page 213 in section 9.5 and including endless consequences.

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