ESP-Now integration

[megane999]

Describe the problem you have/What new integration you would like Integration of ESP-NOW protocol

Please describe your use case for this integration and alternatives you've tried: Just use separated esp on this protocol, but didn't know how to use esp-now with esp-home

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[Ulrar]

I wonder if you could (ab)use this for switches, by transmitting a specific value on a sensor for on and another for off, and reacting on those values on the other side to trigger lights and such

[RubenKelevra]

I think supporting ESP-Mesh is much more interesting. It creates an self-organizing mesh network which supports more than 1000 nodes (10 connections per node). In comparison ESP-Now is pretty basic, as it only allows point to point connections which needs to be known first.

I think prioritizing ESP-Mesh over this, makes sense.

[afarago]

Development of BTHome + ESPNow combination in progress - any comments/ideas are more than welcome. https://github.com/afarago/esphome_component_bthome

Unfortunately ESPNow does not yet support secure communication (there is a flaw in the current implementation).

[Ulrar]

This seems focused on forwarding BTHome, is there any way to use the ESPNow bits independently so they can be used to pass arbitrary stuff from one esp to another ?

Now that ESPHome has a way to turn wifi off, it'd be really cool to be able to use ESPNow instead to control devices that aren't actively connected. Like a passive light bulb controlled by a shelly behind the switch, to use a random example I'm not at all very much looking for

[afarago]

Most of the esp-now implementations need to accomplish several round-trips as they convey complex data.

This solution focuses on creating packets on one side and consuming data on a central hub.

This allows one to transmit approx 50-70 individuals measurements with a single packet. That means less risks, faster operation and less Coulombs consumed...

[Kimotu]

@afarago BT = Bluetooth. So bluetooth is required for its use? Or does it also compile on esp8266 (which do not have bluetooth) and can be used to transmit data via esp-now from sensor to hub?

[afarago]

The beauty of Beethoven is that it works on ESP8266 and ESP32 as well. You might want to check out the provided example yamls.

I do need to add more emphasis to that in the documentation ;)

[evlo]

I just skimmed it for now, but I do not see any option to pass click or other events, probably could be send as state "clicked" maybe?

I did migrate most of my stuff to esp32 so I can communicate using BLE, but I will try to find out some time to try your stuff, at least i could use all the esp8266s that are left somehow.

Would be pretty awesome for libre tuya stuff, that supports only wifi and being able to send message from cheap switch to cheap bulb directly might be useful, although maybe eespnow is really a thing and bekens do not support that?

_use case for the switch to light control over bluetooth is shown here https://github.com/wifwucite/esphome-ble-controller#integration-with-ble_client-light-and-switch-example_ so something similar with virtual binary switch should be doable with yours, but i understand that your focus is low power sensors

[Kimotu]

@afarago where can I open bug reports or report issues concerning your component? Neither do I know how to manually send values (beethowen_transmitter.send) compiles without any errors, but does not seem to send something. I have to enable auto_send: true and even when using connect_persistent: true the component searches continously all channels for bth receiver and prints warnings about long time operations and blocks of 20-30ms.

[afarago]

@afarago where can I open bug reports or report issues concerning your component? Neither do I know how to manually send values (beethowen_transmitter.send) compiles without any errors, but does not seem to send something. I have to enable auto_send: true and even when using connect_persistent: true the component searches continously all channels for bth receiver and prints warnings about long time operations and blocks of 20-30ms.

Thanks for taking the time to try and test it. I have enabled the issues tab for the repo, feel free to add it there as well for easier tracking. During these weeks I could spend less time with the project, so there will be delay in my reaction. If you are tech savvy, and find the problem, you can also create a fix and a PR.

Potential idea to check: the send action takes the complete_only config variable into account - therefore if enabled only sends packet when all inputs receive a value. I have tested it with success on ESP8266, have had very little time to check ESP32 yet.

[gmag11]

Development of BTHome + ESPNow combination in progress - any comments/ideas are more than welcome. https://github.com/afarago/esphome_component_bthome

Unfortunately ESPNow does not yet support secure communication (there is a flaw in the current implementation).

You can always encrypt payload before building espnow packet. Using shared secret key is not that difficult.

Using chachapoly algorithm is light enough for esp8266

[mastersf]

good idea

[tresdesarrollo]

hi, I have ESPHome 2024.9.2 and when write wifi_now logs drops Component not found: wifi_now. I try a lot of things but any else. What can i do?

[nielsnl68]

I'm working on a official version for esphome https://github.com/esphome/esphome/pull/7141 . I would love to know what you think about it.

[ripnetuk]

I'm working on a official version for esphome esphome/esphome#7141 . I would love to know what you think about it.

Hi, I think its awesome that you are doing this. Looks like a much better design than I came up with, not to mention that I have lost interest in it since BLE achieves better battery life with no fuss for what im using it for (temperature sensors).

Good luck with it :) cheers, George

[nielsnl68]

Thanks @ripnetuk

[tresdesarrollo]

Really good but, i cant use the normal espnow and i dont know where i can take a version with espnow component, the component or any solution to use espnow whith esphome

[nielsnl68]

what do you mean @tresdesarrollo? what kind of version are you need?

[tresdesarrollo]

sorry if i don´t write well, my english is´t very good. First, thank you about the help and interest. What i need is simply sistem like esp_now to use in esphome. One or two esp's send and recive data for activate triggers, switchs, ... and other with wifi conected to home assisistant too. The problem, in first, is I cant find espnow component than i can use, is no componet usable anywhere?

[tresdesarrollo]

Just now i realized that i can found in nvds-new-espnow branch, Iḿ newbie. Now i cant try but later i do it. thanks

[RubenKelevra]

@tresdesarrollo as it's not yet part of the ESPHome project you need to declare an external component, so ESPHome will fetch the new component from a different location.

The readme for this can be found here:

https://esphome.io/components/external_components.html

[ripnetuk]

@tresdesarrollo as it's not yet part of the ESPHome project you need to declare an external component, so ESPHome will fetch the new component from a different location.

The readme for this can be found here:

https://esphome.io/components/external_components.html

to add to this, I (original external EasyNow component author) have lost interest, so going forward, the one by @tresdesarrollo will be the one to watch.

[tresdesarrollo]

wow, few days with problems with the espcam and the real matter was the wifi antena, the resist was fited on on internal antena and the extarnal do not catch the wifi, that is why i want espnow. Finaly I change the resist position and implement espnow too, incredible. I use the nvds-new-espnow branch and I do not try because now is runing all funcion over wifi but y work more with it because I want they comunication if the router drops down. thanks for the help, whithout you i don't know what time i can loose

[nielsnl68]

the resistor was fitted on on internal antenna and the external do not catch the wifi, that is why i want espnow.

When you use ESPNOW you will get the same issues because espnow is based on the wifi framework layer.

[tresdesarrollo]

yes, I know but one of them is in range of the router and the other lost it for a few cm and is in range with the pther esp signal. But now two ones are coneccted to the router because I fit the resist in the good place and system is running well. Now I need work whith other things but in few day I believe continue with espnow, thatś good in the sistem to run if router fails