search

eternaldensity / Sandcastle-Builder

xkcd: 1190: Time: The Game
Other
83 stars 68 forks source link

My own set of layout issues #360

Open Vidyogamasta opened 10 years ago

Vidyogamasta commented 10 years ago

1- No way to get the "export layout" thing to go away. Best I got is shifting to the temp save that appears every time you save the layout.

2- Default layout might not translate well to other browsers, reddit post on that is a bit more in detail

3- There's no way to have a menu overlay the comic, which was a VERY useful space-saver in the pre-3.2 update. Let us tap into that power too for our own layouts, please.

This should probably be split up into a ton of separate issues, but I don't wanna spam the thing. If I come across more problems I'll probably do it in a new issue.

eternaldensity commented 10 years ago

1- No way to get the "export layout" thing to go away.

You mean that fact that you have to have the Layout pane open in order to use Overwrite? Well actually you don't need to use Overwrite for visibility so the problem is really that you need to have the Layout pane open so you can click Save Layouts. Except that you can get it to save layouts when you save the game (that's the default actually) so it's just the File pane you need to have open to save layouts... except that you can configure it to save layouts on autosave. So there is a way around that. But still, I should come up with a better way...

3- There's no way to have a menu overlay the comic,

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

which was a VERY useful space-saver in the pre-3.2 update

Do you mean the way in which the Comic, Stats, Export, and Options were mutually exclusive, and opening one automatically closed the others? It's funny, cos some people wanted to be able to see multiple things at the same time. But if you are finding it too difficult to click to show the Stats and hide the Comic, you can just make 2 copies of your layout, one with Stats visible and one with the Comic visible (and 2 more copies with Options and Export visible) all in the same place, and then you can use the Quick Change pane to quickly change back and forth.

I have considered making a feature where you can group panes so that showing one will hide all the others in the group automatically. Is that what you want?

MichealRein commented 10 years ago

I don't know about vidyo but I would prefer something that would just make it look like it did pre-3.2.

Or at the very least turn off the boxes on everything.

eternaldensity commented 10 years ago

Oh the boxes was the... 4th think I fixed.

Vidyogamasta commented 10 years ago

No, I don't mean mutual exclusivity. What I mean is if I drag, say, the log over the comic, I want the comic to disappear under it. The pane should draw its black background on top of the comic like it did before every time you clicked "options" or "stats" pre-3.2. That allows me to use the comic space for certain menus if I want to. As of right now, nothing can go on top of the comic, and that's not good.

MichealRein commented 10 years ago

...I think that is mutual exclusivity. With them being visible, at least.

I don't really like the layouts as a whole but the 2 biggest annoyances are options and stats now. Have those two underneath the newpix, and only show whichever of the 3 you want at a time.

Vidyogamasta commented 10 years ago

Ooohhhh. So in the past, it just turned off the comic while the stats and stuff were up? I see. I can defniitely see how it'd be hard to implement that as an option, then.

And yeah, the options and stats and such are annoying. The biggest deal to me is I don't keep my stats page up all the time, but if any of the stats sub-menus are open (e.g. ninja stats), I have to close the submenu before the main menu or else the submenu stays. I don't know how you'd get it to where closing the main menu closed all submenus, but I'm sure it's possible.

eternaldensity commented 10 years ago

That would be pretty simple.

And yeah I've never drawn anything on top of the comic, it was always hidden.

eternaldensity commented 10 years ago

Anyone still have trouble with the export not hiding when you hide it? It's never done that for me.

Dorus commented 10 years ago

Various things here have been fixed, if anything was missed i guess a new issue (referring this one) is more appropriate -> closable.

LucidCrux commented 10 years ago

Some idea in here too. Grouping things, allowing overlapping, etc. Maybe not really closable. I think I could manage a z-index changing thing at some point. Anyways, I don't think this should be closed until suggestions are pulled into their own issues.

eternaldensity commented 10 years ago

The export layout thing was mainly a misunderstanding, and has been fixed.

Default layout still needs replacing.

And yeah it would still be nice to be able to have some panels hide automatically when you show others.

Dorus commented 10 years ago

Since this one was kept open i guess this is the place to continue. If it's any help i like to share my default layout. It's not perfect but i like it more than the default one.

Few notes: Links, Stats and Options can be one, and should hide newpix and export. Export should also hide the other 4 etc. Favourites should probably be reset. Layouts should be hidden be default.

3.321PPnewP10100000000000000P11110111110010111100111101011P1587C1S1624C8S1338C304S1070C0S0C0S-2C0S0C40S0C313S1072C574S30C30S157C389S503C393S-12C391S330C391S557C0S557C198S1072C43S1C477S981C1178S358C906S359C796S1354C871S1354C574S870C409S1073C306S1480C0S1618C70S1349C735S677C396SP344C266S494C43S800C60S555C384S368C51S282C595S428C314S513C185S514C188S536C238S1070C546S492C238S423C135S422C95S281C194S328C153S201C55S265C253S74C237S240C198S283C121S174C10SPnC1C1613C232C216C61SnC1C1613C140C216C56SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SnC0C0C0C140C50SP0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0S0SP

LucidCrux commented 10 years ago

I think it would be nice to have a couple default layouts for different stages. A layout that is nice for starting off is not necessarily a good one for later and vice-verse.

Also, while doing the stuff for temporal rifts, I got to looking at the css. There is some odd stuff, but odd stuff is sometimes required and I didn't spend the time to look into it. I might at some point spend some time doing a pass over the layouts as whole and seeing what I can come up with. That might involve coming up with some layouts or even some different style options for achieving different things that might not doable with different css.

It might also be worth it to put out a call to arms on reddit and see what people come up with for default starter, mid, and late game layouts.

eternaldensity commented 10 years ago

Yeah there hasn't really been any discussion about good layouts on reddit since the problem with not being able to save more than one or two was fixed by localstorage.