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EIP-2208: Thought Rewards Proposal for funding good thoughts & also leaders of good thoughts #2208

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ryanseanadams commented 5 years ago

eip: 2208 title: Thought Rewards Proposal for funding good thoughts & also leaders of good thoughts author: Ryan Sean Adams (@ryanseanadams) discussions-to: https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/2208 status: Draft type: Standards Track category: Core created: 2019-07-23 requires: NA

Simple Summary

The efforts of thought leaders ("thot leaders") are essential to the protection and promotion of the value of ETH which is money used to pay for stuff in the Ethereum space. Currently these efforts receive zero ("0") compensation. 0 is too low of a number.

This proposal sets aside 0.03333 ETH per Ethereum block for 60 months (344,410 ETH) as a Thot Leader Block Reward ("TLBR") reserved for funding good thot leaders and good thots.

Good thot leaders obviously include @sassal0x, @econoar, @ameensol, @elonmusk, @ryansadams and others added to the boat through the impartial & public curation process of @TheWolfofEthereum. Custody of funds will be stored in an impenetrable multisig only accessible by a set of trusted individuals who can be trusted.

Abstract

The technical issue this solves is that technically there is no reward for thot leadership. This EIP adds 0.03333 ETH to the block reward for a specific distribution period of 10,333,333.3333333333 BLOCKS (about 60 months). The RECIPIENT_ADDRESS is a dusty old ledger nano which will act as a hardware-secured landing zone for later transfer to the TLBR multisig wallet for the purpose of thot leader funding. The emission schedule would start at the hard fork block number and continue for 10,333,333.3333333333 BLOCKS (about 60 months) at which point the address and amount would return to 0.

Each thot leader will deliver no less than 10 good thots per month. Thot leader tweets are public so there's 100% transparency & accountability.

Of course this is a one-time only block reward. Thot leaders will never require rewards again, that would be silly. If another set of thot leaders requests funds they should be harshly denied. Any further distribution would require a severe & protracted hard fork.

Motivation

The motivation is that today thot leaders give a lot and they get 0 compensation. Think of your favorite memes. Chances are they were made by a thot leaders. DeFi? Thot leades. Money Legos? Thot leader. ETH is money? Also thot leaders. They did all this with 0 budget, imagine what they could do with more than 0.

With TLBR funding we'll have more good thots and more good leaders. It's possible (but not guaranteed) that these thots will result in a faster & more scalable ETH 2.0.

Specification

Two constants will be introduced:


REWARD_DURATION_IN_BLOCKS = 10,333,333.3333333333
TLBR_BLOCK_REWARD = 0.03333

BENEFICIARY_ADDRESSES = [
 (<address>, <amount_in_eth>),
 (<address>, <amount_in_eth>)
]

Beginning with block ISTANBUL_BLOCK_HEIGHT, the reward is added to the participating addresses within BENEFICIARY_ADDRESSES at each block until the end of the REWARD_DURATION_IN_BLOCKS.

IF (CURRENT_BLOCK - ISTANBUL_BLOCK_HEIGHT <= REWARD_DURATION_IN_BLOCKS)

FOR BENEFICIARY in BENEFICIARY_ADDRESSES:
  BENEFICIARY[0].balance += BENEFICIARY[1]

Rewards Distribution Rationale

Total Block Reward Increase = `0.03333` seems like a fair number

With a price of ETH at $211 this will raise USD $72,600,000 for thot leadership & good thots over the next 60 months! Wow!

Rationale

There's been lots of talk about block rewards for development.

Yeah, development is cool and stuff. But memes can 10x the value of a cryptocurrency a lot quicker. Thots produce memes, memes produce higher price, and higher price pays for development. So adding rewards for thots is actually the best way to pay for development.

Budget

Thot theme working groups:

Personal Notes and Disclosure

I want to address concerns of conflicts of interest directly. I have none. As a thot leader, my interest is good thots. And I have zero conflicts on that interest.

Disclaimer

I do not claim to represent the community with my views; however I do represent all good and clear-thinking people of the world. Therefore, any criticism of this proposal is likely false and unwarranted.

Copyright

Copyright and related rights waived via CC0.

shemnon commented 5 years ago

This is cute for a twitter troll, but for what should be a standards base repository this is wholly inappropriate.

ryanseanadams commented 5 years ago

This is cute for a twitter troll, but for what should be a standards base repository this is wholly inappropriate.

Sorry you think that! Used 2025 as a template: https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/blob/master/EIPS/eip-2025.md

shemnon commented 5 years ago

The difference is 2025 is done in good faith, and this is done in bad faith. You don't really want this to pass.

ryanseanadams commented 5 years ago

The difference is 2025 is done in good faith, and this is done in bad faith. You don't really want this to pass.

This was done in good faith.

It is intended to shed a light on the holes in the current process & the dangers of opening up politically contentious EIPs. When the limitations of EIPs become obvious to the community it will lead to higher quality EIPs & less spam.

shemnon commented 5 years ago

The intent is good faith, the manner is a net negative to the process. You can make those points without polluting the EIP specifications with political banter. There is a place for conversations like this. A specification repository is not that place. Because you posted a specification you don't actually want implemented is why I called it bad faith and an abuse of the process.

shemnon commented 5 years ago

If you have a political EIP that you might actually want passed, that is what should be posted.

ryanseanadams commented 5 years ago

If you have a political EIP that you might actually want passed, that is what should be posted.

Like this one? https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/960

shemnon commented 5 years ago

Actually, yes.

ryanseanadams commented 5 years ago

960 was submitted to spark conversation about fixed cap.

ryanseanadams commented 5 years ago

2025 was submitted to spark conversation about dev funding via block rewards (again!)

shemnon commented 5 years ago

The key difference was the tone. It was pro of a particular position and not demeaning of another position. You want to degrade, debase, and demean another contribution, use more appropriate venue like Twitter. 960 did no such degradation or disrespect of other contributions. #960 has the decorum this proposal lacks.

loredanacirstea commented 5 years ago

@ryanseanadams , when do you plan on making a PR? I don't see a reason why this shouldn't be accepted as a Draft, under the current rules. Especially with the trend that editors shouldn't even bother making sure proposals are technically sound.

pi0neerpat commented 5 years ago

:+1: @loredanacirstea. Ok to merge (didn't check for markdown errors). Also lol!

abrkn commented 5 years ago

What guys call girls in schools that send out nudes and porn of themselves. An acronym for That Ho Over There.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=THOT

cyber-hokie commented 5 years ago

Hi @ryanseanadams I see I am present in the boat. However I did not see a reference to William Shatner. Can you please expand on how the fund will be fairly distributed to include such individuals as celebrity endorsers? I once had a role in a Queen Latifah movie and in seasons 2 and 3 of Gossip Girl and would like to understand if I am eligible for such a category if it were to be added. Let’s speak offline in private, I have some ideas that might enhance the proposal, including the potential for a friendly fork with this already enabled rather than putting all our eggs into this basket, given the reception by many other stakeholders we don’t care about.

Gezegorz1 commented 5 years ago

Wow, I did something wrong. Again, the problems themselves. I do not know anything about anything fund and it probably is not about me .. I do not know how much it is if I had to decide. part for new research development projects. . to invest a bit. with a fruitful result. And certainly the goals of charities . but fortunately I do not have such power and capabilities.

sob., 27 lip 2019, 05:29 użytkownik Andrew notifications@github.com napisał:

Hi @ryanseanadams https://github.com/ryanseanadams I see I am present in the boat. However I did not see a reference to William Shatner. Can you please expand on how the fund will be fairly distributed to include such individuals as celebrity endorsers? I once had a role in a Queen Latifah movie and in seasons 2 and 3 of Gossip Girl and would like to understand if I am eligible for such a category if it were to be added. Let’s speak offline in private, I have some ideas that might enhance the proposal, including the potential for a friendly fork with this already enabled rather than putting all our eggs into this basket, given the reception by many other stakeholders we don’t care about.

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trevorhere commented 3 years ago

Thought leaders invested in the growth of ETH can buy ETH at its current price, provide a positive influence, then capture the increased value via increases in ETH. No need for some other fund for "trusted" individuals to maintain.

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