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EIP 102 (Serenity): Rename "gas" to "mana" #29

Closed vbuterin closed 8 years ago

vbuterin commented 9 years ago

To commemorate the increased environmental friendliness of proof of stake, starting from Serenity "gas" should be renamed to "mana".

Rationale

Aside from the above, "mana" is a better descriptor because:

 for x in `find .`; sed -i s/gas/mana/g $x
tymat commented 9 years ago

magic

ghost commented 9 years ago

This is such a terrible, alienating and manbaby-centric proposal that I honestly think Vitalik may be developmentally disabled or an elaborate troll

etherReal commented 9 years ago

@tymat LOL @alexvandesande - Yes to gas is not a unit of measurement.
with Lux you get to talk about lumens which is a unit of measurement.
I agree that this is not a "User facing" issue but if they look under the hood (which many many will if the media conversation about Bitcoin is anything to go by) then it would be nice to find a metaphor there that was less "dirty" than Gas. If you ever wanted to make lux consumption a UI feature A Ðapp could show off the Lux consumption with a simple scale from candle to star or whatever. I don't think there is as easy an icon for gas unless you have a miles per gallon scale or something.

robertandrewsmith commented 9 years ago

I think we still have a tendency to describe ether as a crypto fuel, not a store of value. And although it could be both, stating that we're sending some object, "gas" which is ether confounds the problem. Ultimately, gas is an object collected as a fee. However, the transformative ability of state, and dynamic notion of code execution is the core functionality of the Ethereum protocol. So the term ought to be more accurately descriptive.

Fuel is a good word, because like "refilling", we can "refuel" or effectively "fuel" our contracts. I'm also fine more generically terming ether gas as "power". You can power your contract with ether. Therefore send ether power.

Anyway this is pedagogy. Ether is gas. But gas is not ether. Gas is fuel and gas is power. Imagine branding "Powered by Ethereum", "Fueled by Ethereum", "Ether: Power for Smart Contracts", Ether: Fuel for Smart Contracts".

Now compare: "Ether: Gas for Smart Contracts"? "Ether: Petrol for Smart Contracts"? "Ether: CO2 for Smart Contracts" "Ether: Biofuel for Smart Contracts", "Ether: Lux for Smart contracts", "Ether: Mana for Smart Contracts"

"Fuel" and "Power" is infinitely a better term.

aakilfernandes commented 9 years ago

The real problem with gas, is that it's not understood as a real unit. You don't put 10 gas on your car, you put 10 liters of gas on your car. The idea of measuring gas in gas units is rather confusing to the user.

:+1: @alexvandesande

This is similar to what tripped me up when learning about gas.

Phistr90 commented 9 years ago

:-1: Are you sponsered by Magic the Gathering? First the Ethereum Logo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zendikar

Now rename Gas to Mana... :D

etherReal commented 9 years ago

@Phistr90 so if we follow the algorithm gas should be called auaw <--(supposed to be the word mana inverted )

twigwam commented 9 years ago

I bel

coder5876 commented 9 years ago

Opposed to this. I think Gas is a good, neutral term and perfectly describes its use.

skmgoldin commented 8 years ago

I like gas over mana.

ethers commented 8 years ago

Agree with most of the reasons for Gas. It's much clearer than alternatives like mana or lux. When should this EIP get closed? ;)

bobsummerwill commented 8 years ago

Please no.

hughlang commented 8 years ago

Also no.

Yes, Ethereum is special, but it does not need a special lingo that only insiders might enjoy, but is otherwise counterproductive.

The term "gas" has utility value in the same way that something has value because of its usefulness. Hence the metaphor: if Bitcoin is like gold, then Ethereum is more like oil/gas. Maybe not perfect, but still has some meaning.

Who can make the call to close this issue?

obscuren commented 8 years ago

Done

vokkantthakkar commented 2 years ago

Can we reconsider this?

cryptofelon commented 2 years ago

Requesting reconsideration.

0xfoobar commented 2 years ago

hello, ESG is very important to me, I would never use any petroleum products (except for my iPhone and fast food microplastics), I have glued myself to the Ethereum mempool in protest until the name for gas is changed to mana

d347h-eth commented 2 years ago

It's time.

LefterisJP commented 2 years ago

+42

iFrostizz commented 2 years ago

lgtm

Pandapip1 commented 2 years ago

If any of you would like to make this an EIP, please open a thread on FEM.

Ceazor commented 2 years ago

I can just imagine the mana bars and mana potions (gas rebates)

s1dedoteth commented 1 year ago

It is worth noting that the term "gas" in Ethereum is already well-established, and changing it to "mana" could cause further confusion among those already familiar with the Ethereum network. Additionally, "gas" is a term used in other blockchain networks and in computer science more generally, so changing it to "mana" within the context of Ethereum would not be in line with the broader usage of the term.

intldds commented 1 year ago

"mana" is such an elegant/brilliant name, let's go

pcaversaccio commented 1 year ago

Ok, I did it :-D - the FEM link: https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/rename-gas-to-mana/13570.

hydrogenbond007 commented 1 year ago

Sounds good to me too!

Pandapip1 commented 1 year ago

Since there's now a discussion link on FEM, I'm going to lock this issue.