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2 years ago @GregoireSkillZ Hey, thanks for submitting this!
Kiln holds the signing keys and the user holds the withdrawal keys
Watched the demo videos in the docs and looks like users have a dashboard and a widget where they deposit from, and I don't see any steps about the user generating their own mnemonic, or how they obtain their withdrawal keys. But, I also see the github repo with the eth2-keystore-converter which looks like it uses EIP-2335 in some manner.
Could you help me understand how this setup fits into the current criteria defined for our "self custody" indicator? This is currently listed as "User maintains custody of any validator credentials, including signing and withdrawal keys." Does this setup guarantee the user has access to both the signing keys and withdraw keys to their validator if Kiln were to disappear tomorrow?
Otherwise I think we have everything we need to get this listed soon, just let me know about the above, thanks!
GregoireSkillZ
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Product type
Name
Kiln
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Description
Kiln is the leading European staking-as-a-service provider, enabling businesses to stake directly or white-label staking functionality into their products, with over $700M of stake under management
Website
https://www.kiln.fi/
If software is involved, is everything open source?
https://github.com/kilnfi/eth2-keystore-converter
Is the project a fork? If yes, which project was forked?
No
Is the product out of beta development?
Yes the product is in live production
What wallets support the product or service?
Our product is non-custodial. We support all the main wallets and custody solutions (Fireblocks, Ledger, Metamask, etc.)
If the product or service enables staking with <32 ETH, what is the minimum ETH required to stake?
For now we only enable staking with multiples of 32 ETH
If a service, what are the fees associated with using the service?
We charge a degressive commission on rewards based on the staked volume. Starting at 8% of the staking rewards
If the product or service involved a liquidity token, what are the tokens involved?
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What date did the project or service go live?
March 2021
Has the project undergone an external security audit?
Not yet although pentests are planned
Has the project undergone any security bug bounties?
Not yet although that is planned
Is the project being actively maintained?
Yes
Is the product or service free of trusted/human intermediaries?
No, currently our infrastructure team manage the validators and validation keys through our deployment pipeline
If a pooled staking service, can users participate as a node operator without permission?
No pooled service
If listing a staking-as-a-service, are users required to sign-up for an account?
Yes, the product requires an email login
If listing a staking-as-a-service, who holds the signing keys, and withdrawal keys?
Kiln holds the signing keys and the user holds the withdrawal keys
If a pooled staking service, what percent of node operators are running a supermajority CL client?
No pooled staking service yet
If listing node or client tooling, which CL clients (Lighthouse, Teku, Nimbus or Prysm) are supported?
We support Prysm and Teku in production and are looking to add more
What platforms are supported?
What user interfaces are supported?
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