Closed damphyr closed 11 years ago
I will disagree. Streaming is cool and nice but I expect a lot more people to actually watch the talks online after we post them on youtube, vimeo etc. Preparing those videos is for me most of the work and I think the preparation of the videos is more important than streaming (to put it differently: I'd lose no sleep if we scratched streaming altogether, but I would not budge on having the talks posted afterwards)
@damphyr and what about what we have signed with the sponsors...? Please think all the aspects before casting your votes.
It is not that we don't care for post editing. Personally I think it is of great importance. It's just that we can deal with it after the event. Livemedia is from Thessaloniki and I thought it would be better to use an Athenian company in case something goes wrong, as you noted in a previous meeting.
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On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Vassilis Rizopoulos < notifications@github.com> wrote:
I will disagree. Streaming is cool and nice but I expect a lot more people to actually watch the talks online after we post them on youtube, vimeo etc. Preparing those videos is for me most of the work and I think the preparation of the videos is more important than streaming (to put it differently: I'd lose no sleep if we scratched streaming altogether, but I would not budge on having the talks posted afterwards)
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On 5 Jun 2013, at 12:46, Apostolos Pantsiopoulos wrote:
It is not that we don't care for post editing. Personally I think it is of great importance. It's just that we can deal with it after the event. Livemedia is from Thessaloniki and I thought it would be better to use an Athenian company in case something goes wrong, as you noted in a previous meeting.
At the same time, since we will have the raw data. It would make sense to ask Livemedia the cost per hour of doing the post processing for us. So we can split this task from the rest.
How about that?
I believe @damphyr has a point. Obviously we cannot skip streaming, but I believe the importance of the editing is bigger. If we can get an affordable solution for about 200-300€ then I am fine with 2, otherwise if it is something like 800€ then we should consider the overall solution.
@nolamesa I'd like a professional post editing too but our obligation to our sponsors comes first, just as I mentioned while explaining my vote (and @nikosd highlighted again above). I'd ask for VDEL (or the company we finally decide upon) to provide a (good) quote for post editing that we might explore AFTER the event if the budget allows and everything is ok. I'd certainly not split it into multiple companies / persons in order to keep things coherent and manageable. Instead I'd "push" them to provide a good quote, which I'm pretty sure they are willing to do.
@nikosd please confirm that in both options 1 and 3 we have to lead the project ourselves, as you mentioned, since we will be using LiveStream. Or only VDEL says they don't know how to "work" with LiveStream and thus won't be able to interject logos etc, but on the other hand LiveMedia knows how to do it?
If this (i.e. we have (yet another) job to do ourselves) is the case for both optons 1 & 3 then I'm for option 2 all the way.
Just spoke with VDEL, they will give us the highlights video for free assuming we tell them when/where to cut the videos (i.e. not when the banner is on screen) from the mixed video stream.
They also said that they will charge 35E per hour of montage but they expect this not to be much work if we tell them what to edit. This means that if we just tell them to package the 3 streams (laptop screen + speaker +crowd) per speaker from beginning to end, this will be very cheap. I am happy to do this btw.
She also asked me about a 3rd camera. I believe we can negotiate this (closer to the dates perhaps).
They also told me that we can send them the T&Cs contract with our amendments.
Shall I give the OK to VDEL btw?
I don't know if event management companies handle the audiovisual part (see #8) so here's a placeholder/reminder for that. It so happens that most of my friends are either sound engineers or photographers and video professionals of the lets-stage-a-concert variety.
I've already made the initial inquiries, hopefully I will have a quote (or two) for 2 video cameras and audio console support (setup, recording and editing) by the end of next week (so 6th July). This should serve as a cost guideline.
Don't know if we should also have one photographer or just snap shots ourselves. If anyone thinks there's need for more or less, put it in the comments.