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Representation Powers and Mandates Core Vocabulary
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GLOSSARY - SEMPER feedback - minor issues #10

Open BartvanBekkum opened 5 years ago

BartvanBekkum commented 5 years ago
paulakeen commented 5 years ago

@BartvanBekkum , please, is there a SEMPER GitHub or similar collaborative tool to which we can subscribe, contribute and get feed-back from?

Thanks!

anarosa-es commented 5 years ago

According to Merriam-Webster dictionary:

So, I see mandatee as a synonym of representative if the legal right is the existence of a mandate. If the legal right is other than a mandate, then the representative cannot be called "mandatee".

Conclusion: A mandatee is always a representative, but a representative might not be a mandatee

anarosa-es commented 5 years ago

I can think of several types of representatives according to how the representation is granted, and only some of them are related to mandates:

  1. by administrative registries (i.e. representation in public services),
  2. by powers of attorney in deeds (i.e. deeds for business regarding positions and representations),
  3. by citizens' rights (i.e. children are represented by their parents because of the legal family relationship)
  4. by proffesional association (i.e., agreements between Public Administrations and professional associations for certain public services)

1 & 2 can be named as "mandates" because the authorization is given to the representative by the represented one at some point of time and to a certain extent. However some of these mandates are composed by structure data and others are not (notarial deeds are documents written in plain text without a given structure).

4 are proven by the existence of the agreement and the registration of a professional (the representative here) in the corresponding association.

3 are proven by the regulation that states such rigths and the corresponding register.

paulakeen commented 5 years ago

This contribution is really very interesting. I think it is related to something that we're right now modelling and that we refer to as the "PowerSource" (source of the power). We are proposing to have a new class nameto use it with a twofold objective: (1) to link the power of a mandator that is a mandatee (delegation) to the mandate where it was originally empowered, and (2) to indicate whether the power comes directly from an existing legislation.

If the class PowerSource carried a sourceType code then we could cover also the other options you indicate in your points 3 and 4. Points 1 and 2 would already be covered by our latest proposal.

Allow us to finish implementing the change today in the Conceptual Data Model and we'll post it tomorrow morning.