Open mithro opened 6 years ago
I can put some effort here, do you have any use cases or an idea for the interface? How the information will be consumed and produced?
The data will mainly be used to generate delay specifications for Verilog to Routing. See http://vtr-verilog-to-routing.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tutorials/arch/timing_modeling/index.html for example.
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Another common thing that you would want to do with the SDF delays it to split or join them together.
If a pathway when A -> B -> C
, you would want to add the delay A->B
and B->C
. Conversely if you had delay 'A -> C' you might want to confirm that A->B + B->C
is the same value.
Another common thing you might want to do is if you have the following set of delays;
A->B->C = 100ps
A->B->D == 40ps
E->B->D == 20ps
Then you want to work out what the possible range of values of each of the sections would be.
With something like this;
from collections import namedtuple
Times = namedtuple("Times", ("min", "typical", "max"))
IoPath = namedtuple("IoPath", ("src", "dst", "low2high", "high2low"))
lt_paths = [
IoPath("in0", "ltout", Times(293.136, 324.149, 364.700), Times(310.048, 342.850, 385.740)),
IoPath("in1", "ltout", Times(259.313, 286.747, 322.619), Times(304.411, 336.616, 378.727)),
IoPath("in2", "ltout", Times(248.039, 274.280, 308.592), Times(276.225, 305.448, 343.659)),
IoPath("in3", "ltout", Times(214.215, 236.878, 266.511), Times(219.852, 243.112, 273.525)),
]
lc_paths = [
IoPath("in0", "lcout", Times(360.783, 398.952, 448.861), Times(310.048, 342.850, 385.740)),
IoPath("in1", "lcout", Times(321.323, 355.317, 399.767), Times(304.411, 336.616, 378.727)),
IoPath("in2", "lcout", Times(304.411, 336.616, 378.727), Times(281.862, 311.682, 350.673)),
IoPath("in3", "lcout", Times(253.676, 280.513, 315.606), Times(231.127, 255.579, 287.552)),
]
We can calculate the common part of the delay between XX->ltout
and XX->lcout
in0
ltout lcout delta
min 293.136000 360.783000 67.647000
typical 324.149000 398.952000 74.803000
max 364.700000 448.861000 84.161000
in1
ltout lcout delta
min 259.313000 321.323000 62.010000
typical 286.747000 355.317000 68.570000
max 322.619000 399.767000 77.148000
in2
ltout lcout delta
min 248.039000 304.411000 56.372000
typical 274.280000 336.616000 62.336000
max 308.592000 378.727000 70.135000
in3
ltout lcout delta
min 214.215000 253.676000 39.461000
typical 236.878000 280.513000 43.635000
max 266.511000 315.606000 49.095000
Does that help?
Yes, that's what I was looking for.
@euripedesrocha were there any updates on this?
Sadly I had little time to work on this. I intend to pu some effort in january, If you want to lead the effort I'll be glad to provide you any help I can.
I will implement parsers for a couple of other file formats in VerilogCreator, but in C++. Do we have access to IEEE 1497-2001?
python SDF parser being developed in https://github.com/SymbiFlow/python-sdf-timing SDF producer is a part of this PR https://github.com/SymbiFlow/prjxray/pull/706
GitHubPython library for working Standard Delay Format (SDF) Timing Annotation files. - SymbiFlow/python-sdf-timing
The tool is more or less ready. I'm pretty sure it has bugs, and does not handle all the SDF spec. Will fix the bugs as they appear in testing.
@kgugala I think we should change this bug to "Improve the python-sdf-timing library", some improvements that I can think of;
@rochus-keller - FYI There is a C++ library for parsing sdf files at https://github.com/kmurray/libsdfparse -- it might be worth adding SDF support to VerilogCreator if it isn't too much trouble.
GitHubA simple C++ SDF parser. Contribute to kmurray/libsdfparse development by creating an account on GitHub.
Create a really good library for parsing / producing SDF files
Standard Delay Format (SDF) format is an IEEE standard for the representation and interpretation of timing data for use at any stage of an electronic design process. It finds wide applicability in design flows, and forms an efficient bridge between Dynamic timing verification and Static timing analysis.
It has usually two sections: one for interconnect delays and the other for cell delays.
SDF format can be used for back-annotation as well as forward-annotation.
The SDF format version 2.1 is produced by Verilog to Routing for post implementation timing analysis. It is also used by a lot of other EDA tools.
Expected results
A Python library published on PyPi which makes it easy to read and write SDF files.
Further reading
Knowledge Prerequisites