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Question about bare metal #1688

Closed Immortalin closed 2 years ago

Immortalin commented 8 years ago

Is it possible to do baremetal, freestanding(I.e. no OS) x86/64 development?

bjourne commented 8 years ago

No, not really. :p

bpollack commented 8 years ago

I think @bjourne is being unfair. You'd just need to rewrite the VM as an actual systems kernel, modify it to run multiple images communicating over some type of RPC mechanism, and then write some vocabularies for driver support. We'd definitely welcome pull requests that provided any of the above functionality.

alex-ilin commented 8 years ago

There are small open-source kernels out there that can run on bare metal x86. The two I know of are Native Oberon and A2 (formerly known as Blue Bottle). The first one is smaller and simpler, but the latter is being maintained to this date.

Both are self-hosting, i.e. they have GUI, text editors and compiler built-in, so you can do development, networking and have some file systems support. So, having full source code available, you can create a Factor VM on top of a stripped-down version of either of them, or just have Factor programs run alongside the Oberon code.

PS: Oberon is one of the "interesting" languages mentioned by Slava Pestov on the concatenative wiki: http://concatenative.org/wiki/view/Oberon

erg commented 2 years ago

I think this is out of scope for this version of Factor. Closing for now.