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fancoder / cryptonote-universal-pool

Mining pool for all CryptoNote based coins such as Bytecoin, duckNote, Monero, and Fantomcoin.
http://cryptonotemining.org
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Merge mining support #5

Open TreeNode opened 10 years ago

TreeNode commented 10 years ago

Hi, are there any plans to add support for Merge Mining? Such as what MCN or FCN supports? Thank you!

mapleshadow commented 10 years ago

Where did you know I was doing this work?

2014-08-13 23:14 GMT+08:00 TreeNode notifications@github.com:

Hi, are there any plans to add support for Merge Mining? Such as what MCN or FCN supports? Thank you!

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TreeNode commented 10 years ago

So you are working on a cryptonote merge mining pool? I followed the pool's software and see who was forking it. There is more work in progress with merge mining more than 2 coins, for example mining MCN, FCN, and XMR at the same time.

mapleshadow commented 10 years ago

I had this idea and plans But has not yet started writing the relevant code

2014-08-14 3:46 GMT+08:00 TreeNode notifications@github.com:

So you are working on a cryptonote merge mining pool? I followed the pool's software and see who was forking it. There is more work in progress with merge mining more than 2 coins, for example mining MCN, FCN, and XMR at the same time.

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TreeNode commented 10 years ago

It would be a fantastic addition to add in the merge mining. The only pool I know that allows this right now is minergate. If you added support, merge mining could be pushed out to many pools. Thank you for your contributions!

mapleshadow commented 10 years ago

OK~~~Whether it has the support of all CryptoNight algorithm coins? Whether coins length is 99 digits or 97 digits

2014-08-14 22:46 GMT+08:00 TreeNode notifications@github.com:

It would be a fantastic addition to add in the merge mining. The only pool I know that allows this right now is minergate. If you added support, merge mining could be pushed out to many pools. Thank you for your contributions!

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mapleshadow commented 10 years ago

Also, I have a very good code, I know it says it is not very ethical, Oh ~ ~ ~ GPU mining tools of the fees charged, can be replaced mineralization in the mine pool pool creator own wallet account. This code, I need to share it?

2014-08-17 11:21 GMT+08:00 枫影 mapleshadow@gmail.com:

OK~~~Whether it has the support of all CryptoNight algorithm coins? Whether coins length is 99 digits or 97 digits

2014-08-14 22:46 GMT+08:00 TreeNode notifications@github.com:

It would be a fantastic addition to add in the merge mining. The only pool

I know that allows this right now is minergate. If you added support, merge mining could be pushed out to many pools. Thank you for your contributions!

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fancoder commented 10 years ago

Hi guys! I'm working on merge mining right now. Coming out this or next week.

TreeNode commented 10 years ago

Sounds great! Thank you!

fancoder commented 10 years ago

Guys, what did you mean merge mining? CryptoNote currencies do not support merge mining for now. I'm going to implement some kind of dinamical pool mining multiple coins and automatically switching to most profitable(hash/USD). It will take some time, I think 2-4 weeks.

TreeNode commented 10 years ago

You merge both coins at once, not split hash rate. This is possible. Minergate.com has figured it out.

As CyptoMidnight explains:

Merged mining works like this: you have two totally separate block chains, they are not related in any way nor does either contain any data from the other. When you mine you generate hashes that may be the solution to the current block, this is very very improbable per hash, its like a lottery where everyone generates tickets until someone finds the winning one.

Normally you make tickets and check them against the BCN/QCN/XMR or other CN coin block chain to see if they are the solution. With merged mining you create a ticket and check it against both the any CN-based coin block chain and the MonetaVerde block chain, CN based coin and MCN know nothing about each other, they are two totally different lotteries with different winning numbers, you just sent a copy of your ticket to both. Since you are sending the same ticket to two lotteries you increase your chances of winning one or the other.

Coins remain totally separate, you simply run both the MonetaVerde and oter CN coin clients on the same machine and submit hashes to both networks. If your hash is the solution to the Monetaverde block you get monetaverdes if you hash is the solution to the other coin block you get both coins. It's exactly like if you where mining on just one network, except you submit the same work twice.

netmonk commented 10 years ago

What i dont understand is that the data sent to miner is a blob related to a block header.

How come the same blockheader +nonce can produce a valid block on multiple blockchain ?

The current blockheader wich is currently mined on monero has nothing to do with the current blockheader in monetaverde or duckcoin !

Please enlight me

mapleshadow commented 10 years ago

Good idea！

2014-08-27 3:48 GMT+08:00 Netmonk notifications@github.com:

What i dont understand is that the data sent to miner is a blob related to a block header.

How come the same blockheader +nonce can produce a valid block on multiple blockchain ?

The current blockheader wich is currently mined on monero has nothing to do with the current blockheader in monetaverde or duckcoin !

Please enlight me

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fancoder commented 10 years ago

What i dont understand is that the data sent to miner is a blob related to a block header.

@netmonk I also do not understand how it works. I'll try to check how minergate works.

TreeNode commented 10 years ago

Hi, has there been any progress? Did you talk to a rep from minergate?

fancoder commented 10 years ago

Yes, I did. They said that it's proprietary technology, and they don't want to share it to open source.

TreeNode commented 10 years ago

Is the code in minerc (for MCN) not helpful in figuring this out? https://github.com/cryptomidnight/monetaverde/blob/master/src/minerc/minerc.cpp#L131

Possible some more code: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=675107.msg7655813#msg7655813

Thank you again for your efforts!

TreeNode commented 9 years ago

Well, somebody figured it out other than minergate. It's obvious since only half of the hashrate is now at minergate while the other half is somewhere else. Which makes me wonder if someone figured it out and are abusing it. For example, they are using merge mining on their pool to squeeze out extra coins (MCN and FCN) from unbeknownst miners that don't realize they are merge-mining.

eightsixeight commented 9 years ago

well thats an understatement "For example, they are using merge mining on their pool to squeeze out extra coins (MCN and FCN) from unbeknownst miners that don't realize they are merge-mining."

of course 90% of XMR miners don't even know they mining, it's all abused systems ran by bots, so minergate is just cashing in on mergemining as to alleviate the cost of the bot installs

M7rc7ry commented 7 years ago

Hi. Did you guys ever make any headway with merged mining of cryptonote coins?

nibbons commented 7 years ago

I am looking for Cryptonote-util for XDN merged mining fork.

crappyrules commented 6 years ago

It appears that mergedmining is supported by this pool code, but how does the configuration change to support both coin daemons?