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Extracting games from old Win95/Win98 CD-ROM game compilation titles #54

Open PW5190 opened 1 year ago

PW5190 commented 1 year ago

I have a few Windows 95 and Windows 98-compatible CD-ROM games in my collection, and I want to know if it's possible to extract the game ROMs from those that are compilation titles. For example, I have Atari: 80 Classic Games in One! and the SEGA Smash Pack 1 and 2 Twin Pack. I want to extract the Atari 2600 and SEGA Genesis games from their respective CD-ROMs. Also, Are these games just ROMs in emulation, or are they just ports? I know the Atari 80-game compilation was done by Digital Eclipse, which they will also make a new 50th anniversary Atari collection.

charlieglide commented 1 year ago

You can extract some of the games from Atari: 80 Classic Games in One! However some of the ROMs are incomplete and will only play on older versions of MAME. As I recall you can create dummy files for some of the proms, but they will not always work with newer versions of MAME with HLSL, etc. "Gravitar," "Black Widow," "Major Havoc," "Red Baron," and "Space Duel" worked on newer versions with dummy proms. The ROMS are located in Atari80Classics_Install\Games\Resources and then under the individual game. They have names like "Gravitar.ROM" and "Gravitar.VSM". I used a HexEditor to copy and paste the data to new files formatted for MAME. As I recall, "Asteroids", and "Asteroids Deluxe" play best on AAE emulator and will work with the files on the 80 Classics game. Strangely, MAME does not have good bullet flare for either of these games like AAE, which also allows high scores to be saved. I needed to buy an Aux PCB off Ebay for "Battlezone" to work on newer versions of MAME and dump some of the proms. I think "Tempest" required the real proms as well. Eventually I found a better source for these games is the Atari Micro SD card sold by MicroCenter. I was able to extract many of the games that I could not play except on older versions of MAME such as "Warlords". It was not easy getting these games off of the SDCard, but I managed to do it. I don't know about the SEGA Genesis games, because my interest lies in the arcade titles. However, the Sega Genesis collection for PS2 and PSP has arcade roms for "Zaxxon", "Future Spy," "Super Zaxxon," and "Astro Blaster" that are in the hex files and are playable with modern versions of MAME (.175+). Hope this helps.

PW5190 commented 1 year ago

I need to find a way to extract the 2600 ROMs (not the Arcade ROMs) from Atari: 80 Classic Games in One! and the SEGA Genesis ROMs from both SEGA Smash Pack and SEGA Smash Pack 2.

charlieglide commented 1 year ago

I have not extracted the 2600 ROMS, but go to the folder Atari80Classics_Install\Games\Resources-Atari 2600\ROMS. You'll see several ROMs. The one labeled CENTIPED matches the checksum for the Atari 2600 rom CRC32: 77396102 There are several other roms in that folder. See if the checksums match.

For the Sega Genesis collection look in the USR Directory-->0Classic--->.SR files

There are a bunch of .SR files for Genesis Games that can be extracted with a hex editor.

PW5190 commented 1 year ago

For the Sega Genesis collection look in the USR Directory-->0Classic--->.SR files

There are a bunch of .SR files for Genesis Games that can be extracted with a hex editor.

I'm not talking about SEGA Genesis Collection for PS2 and PSP. I'm talking about SEGA Smash Pack and SEGA Smash Pack 2 for Windows 95/98.

charlieglide commented 1 year ago

I should note I do not own the Smash Pack version, but the PS2 and PSP versions and those have games in the .SR format and are easily extractable. I know this for the Arcade games but not the console ones. Why don't you open up the files for the Smash Pack in a hex editor and see if the files match the data you need for the consoles?

PW5190 commented 1 year ago

I have not extracted the 2600 ROMS, but go to the folder Atari80Classics_Install\Games\Resources-Atari 2600\ROMS. You'll see several ROMs. The one labeled CENTIPED matches the checksum for the Atari 2600 rom CRC32: 77396102 There are several other roms in that folder. See if the checksums match.

I extracted the 2600 ROMs from the Atari 80 disc, and fired them up in the Stella emulator. They all work like a charm! Most of the 2600 games might be the same as the ones included in Atari Vault.

charlieglide commented 1 year ago

You might want to read this thread about extracting Smash Pack files:

https://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?threads/curious-discovery-regarding-sega-smash-pack-for-pc.17943/

charlieglide commented 1 year ago

See this as well: https://github.com/shawngmc/game-extraction-toolbox/issues/35

PW5190 commented 1 year ago

I'm a bit concerned about Activision Anthology on PC, which includes over 75 Atari 2600 games Activision produced. I've yet to buy a PC copy of the game myself, but I want to know if ROM extraction for all of the games in the compilation is possible or not.

charlieglide commented 1 year ago

Doing a Google search brings up these results:

https://forums.atariage.com/topic/336118-how-to-extract-roms-from-the-activision-anthology-for-pc-and-a-request-for-info-on-the-included-roms/

PW5190 commented 1 year ago

Also, I've yet to do some research on the two Intellivision compilations on PC. I wonder if ROM extraction from Intellivision Lives! (over 50 games) and Intellivision Rocks! (over 30 games) are possible. I'd better and add those two compilations to my shopping list.

themazingness commented 1 year ago

The PC version of Intellivision Lives! needs no extraction. They are loose ROMS in the disc folders. You don't even need to install the game. It also has the BIOS. You may need to rename the BIOS if it isn't working properly. I know it is case sensitive on RetroPie.

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Also, I've yet to do some research on the two Intellivision compilations on PC. I wonder if ROM extraction from Intellivision Lives! (over 50 games) and Intellivision Rocks! (over 30 games) are possible. I'd better and add those two compilations to my shopping list.

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PW5190 commented 1 year ago

How about the console versions of Intellivision Lives!? I'm planning on getting the GameCube version of that game so I can extract the ROMs from the disc. I'm sorry if I went a bit off-topic here.

PW5190 commented 1 year ago

Anyways, back on track. I did some research and found two more Intellivision compilations on PC. They are both titled "Intellivision Greatest Hits: 20th Anniversary Edition". One version included 10 games, while an updated version included 25. The updated version brought most games back from the older version, but three stay trapped. So, I wonder if ROM extraction from these two versions might be the same process as Intellivision Lives! and Intellivision Rocks!, or if the games might be encoded differently... Honestly, I don't know, but what I would like to know if ROM extraction is possible from both versions of Intellivision Greatest Hits: 20th Anniversary Edition.

themazingness commented 1 year ago

Sorry, I only know about the Intellivision Lives! CD. The only other one I had was Gamecube and I think someone threw it away.

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How about the console versions of Intellivision Lives!? I'm planning on getting the GameCube version of that game so I can extract the ROMs from the disc. I'm sorry if I went a bit off-topic here.

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kjetil-f commented 1 year ago

The Activision’s Atari 2600 Action Pack contain ROMs: https://www.retrogameboards.com/t/the-ripping-thread-how-to-build-your-own-legit-retro-rom-library/98/49

kjetil-f commented 1 year ago

Some guy on Reddit told me how to extract ROMs from Activision Anthology: https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/usdl77/nointro_on_unverified_roms/