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Sega CD LED Emulation settings. Disk Slot/On Screen/Off #286

Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I was wondering if you could add an option to emulate the LED's on screen, and 
add an option to turn them off. The blinking disk slot is somewhat distracting.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by cheatfreak47 on 15 Oct 2012 at 3:04

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
yes, i have been thinking to this as well.
Honestly, it was initially meant to show that infos are being loaded and 
emulator is not frozen (loading times can be very long, with only a black 
screen to "inform" you, for some games) but you get use to it anyway so i am 
not sure if this really brings anything.

I also thought a better use could be to indicate when the virtual tray is open, 
which indicates you should swap in another disc.

Original comment by ekeeke31@gmail.com on 15 Oct 2012 at 7:20

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Would something like the attachments do? It's the less intrusive and more 
intuitive way I can think of implementing both the on-screen leds and the open 
tray indicator.

Keeping the option of using the Wii's light for emulating the Mega-CD's leds 
would be nice, though. Something like:

Mega-CD indicators:
-On-screeen
-Wii (Access LED)
-Wii (Ready LED)
-Wii (Open tray)
-Off

Original comment by iceknigh...@gmail.com on 17 Oct 2012 at 4:05

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Also, the "open tray" icon in the middle could blink to catch the user's 
attention.

Original comment by iceknigh...@gmail.com on 17 Oct 2012 at 4:10

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Thank you, that's not bad really, a good mock-up of the original system.
Maybe smaller images would be less distractive though. And I am not sure if the 
ready LED is really that much useful, it is always ON, isn't it ?
Do you have original image files as PNG  ?

AS for the open tray status, i prefer not obfuscating the screen with too much 
infos so i think it's a better idea to make the drive LED blinking by default 
when virtual tray open. It's not permanent and will only happen at very 
specific point so it won't be distractive, just enough to get you open the menu 
in order to load another disc.

Original comment by ekeeke31@gmail.com on 17 Oct 2012 at 5:06

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
According to the Mega-CD's front label,  the READY led is always lit except 
when in "Standby mode", where it starts blinking.

I'm attaching the icons I used for the mockups. I made them from some random 
images I found on the internet and I quickly colorized the buttons, so they 
might not look too clean or accurate.

I can take higher quality pictures of the lit/unlit leds next time I get access 
to my Mega-CD 1, if you want (probably this week).

Original comment by iceknigh...@gmail.com on 17 Oct 2012 at 6:25

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Yeah, I will probably need to remake them from scratch, even if displayed small 
enough, we need better quality to display on a TV screen.

What is "standby mode" again ? 

Original comment by ekeeke31@gmail.com on 17 Oct 2012 at 8:44

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
...I really don't remember. I'll have to go check it out this week.

Original comment by iceknigh...@gmail.com on 17 Oct 2012 at 9:09

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Couldn't figure out that standby mode, but here's some clear pics of the front 
lights in case they'll be of help.

Original comment by iceknigh...@gmail.com on 17 Nov 2012 at 8:24

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
And here's the original first pic.

I had to modify it a little to make it look flat since it's a curved surface, 
so if you see something not aligning perfectly, that's the reason.

Original comment by iceknigh...@gmail.com on 17 Nov 2012 at 8:31

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Thanks for the highres pictures.
Here are some PNG mockups I quickly made out of it (though not exactly the same 
font)

Original comment by ekeeke31@gmail.com on 18 Nov 2012 at 4:12

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Original comment by ekeeke31@gmail.com on 21 Nov 2012 at 12:34

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
added in r750

Original comment by ekeeke31@gmail.com on 24 Nov 2012 at 7:56

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I've just tried the on-screen LEDs and found out they seem to get misplaced 
when the NTSC video is activated.

About their current design, I'm not sure they look so much like actual lights, 
but more like colored buttons... I'm attaching some variations I've made from 
the real lights just in case you end up liking them better.

Original comment by icedoma...@gmail.com on 29 Nov 2012 at 11:18

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I meant the NTSC video filter, sorry.

Original comment by icedoma...@gmail.com on 29 Nov 2012 at 11:23

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
By the way, I've figured out the Standby mode and it does work properly already.

It just happens automatically whenever the drive is left for one minute without 
reading a thing. The "READY" LED keeps flashing as shown in the front label.

Original comment by icedoma...@gmail.com on 29 Nov 2012 at 11:50

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I will look into it. I don't use NTSC filter because it slowdowns emulation a 
lot, which does not really help when Mega CD is emulated...

About the LED images, it is actually difficult to use very precise 
representations because of the limited resolution on TV screen and the scaling. 
What looks good on computer often look like a pixels garbage on TV screen, but 
i will try with yours to see how it looks.

Original comment by ekeeke31@gmail.com on 30 Nov 2012 at 7:20

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Your "lighted" leds actually look quite good so I ended up using it.
Also fixed misaligned leds when using NTSC filter in r755

Original comment by ekeeke31@gmail.com on 2 Dec 2012 at 7:34

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I've managed to take some better pics of the colored LEDs and I've come up with 
new icons that look slightly better than the ones I had posted earlier.

I'm also posting new "off" versions that match their "on" counterparts 
perfectly, so it won't look like they're moving a little when lit.

Original comment by iceknigh...@gmail.com on 6 Dec 2012 at 7:38

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
And here's the translucid versions that won't hide anything on screen:

Original comment by iceknigh...@gmail.com on 6 Dec 2012 at 8:38

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Thanks, they look great on my TV screen.
I did not tried the translucid versions yet though.

Original comment by ekeeke31@gmail.com on 7 Dec 2012 at 6:58

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Something I've noticed, by the way, is that the on-screen LEDs seem to slightly 
change their position when the emulated system changes the screen resolution 
(easy to see when booting up Sonic CD).

Also, when in widescreen mode, perhaps these LEDs could be moved more to the 
sides so they don't block anything from sight? Oh, and also they currently look 
squished in this mode.

Original comment by iceknigh...@gmail.com on 2 Jan 2013 at 6:16