Presentation of completion milestones 4 and 1a

[michielbdejong]

I want to compose a Request for Payment for our milestones 4 and 1a. As proof of completion, I want to include a short recorded presentation that shows these two parts of what we built so far.

Rough script:

• general introduction
• show app where the user enters timesheet data, for instance SaveMyTime
• show apps list (milestone 4)
• show data formats folder (milestone 4)
• show glossary (milestone 4)
• show PreJournal Nextcloud app, importing a CSV file (milestone 1a)
• explain network topology and push vs pull
• explain how milestone 1b would let this data be forwarded across the network
• explain how milestones 2b and 3b would let data come into PreJournal from elsewhere
• show time-pondersource-com idempotent pull from timesheet-dev-evoludata-com (milestone 1a)
• show time-pondersource-com idempotent pull from timeld-org (milestone 1a)

Milestone 1: Prejournal

Prejournal.org will be a headless bookkeeping connector that can take data from many types of source documents and export data to many different bookkeeping tools. It can be run as a stand-alone LAMP application, or as a Nextcloud app.

Deliverable: Tagged release of the code that does the following.

1a - 6000 EUR) Import timesheets data from the timetracker tools listed in the wiki (4) that allow data retrieval, either through an API or through a manual export-and-import flow, as well as relevant open standards (like caldav etc).

Milestone 4: Documentation

6000 EUR) Formats wiki - a wiki that describes all the various formats and protocols, including a list of target formats for items 1), 2) and 3), with a simple repeating example. The target formats will be an agreed sub-list of all the formats found. Including hosting costs and other expenses.

[mcalligator]

I like the idea of doing a pre-recorded presentation - nice!

I've a couple of questions and observations:

1. For 1a, why use a non-federated time-tracking system to capture an entry in preference to one of our three federated tools? Would that not confuse matters? Or are you aiming to show that an arbitrary third-party system can be used to enter data, which will then be replicated to other systems federated to the one it is integrated with?
2. For 4, given its expanded scope to encompass analysis of and findings from the project, do you envisage incorporating those into the presentation as well, given their importance in demonstrating how it has fulfilled its larger objectives, and the potential further work that could build on it? Or do you see the presentation as being an interim snapshot of where we've got to thus far?

[michielbdejong]

are you aiming to show that an arbitrary third-party system can be used to enter data, which will then be replicated to other systems federated to the one it is integrated with?

Exactly!

Apart from our initial tendency to try to define "yet another" single union format "to rule them all", which changed over time (as you documented) to a translations approach with multiple equally OK data formats, and all the understanding we gathered on the way about how to translate identifiers, I think the end result of our project still shows two interesting archeological marks:

• PreJournal can import 16 different data formats from file upload. From our research on file formats we rolled into writing parsers for them and then providing import commands, but they are still not what we want of course. We want API integrations, like the 3 integrations that WikiSuite built.
• The timeld-cli application is "yet another" fully-capable time tracker application in its own right, and the WikiSuite tracker also has a full GUI that can directly be used by the end-user as "yet another" timesheets data entry app.

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1y2PrBsfq0UtUVk0pYrsMlY0C7MckQFDYjqPkoGyv8hU/edit?usp=sharing

expanded scope to encompass analysis of and findings from the project, do you envisage incorporating those

Hm, I don't think I would do them justice - I just wanted to present the things that tick the boxes on the original milestones plan for now, to have something to send along with the Request for Payment today.

And then maybe in general we can work towards some sort of all-encompassing recorded presentation together, that covers your documentation work as well?

[mcalligator]

OK, understood. I'll DM you about the division of labour for Milestone 4 to ensure we're still on the same page.

[michielbdejong]

Part 1: https://youtu.be/w4Rd1IGFk_Q

[michielbdejong]

Part 2: https://youtu.be/VUTyv6FF0s0