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Silverblue install process unfriendly/inaccessible to low vision #498

Open chloe-everhart opened 8 months ago

chloe-everhart commented 8 months ago

Describe the bug A clear and concise description of what the bug is.

Low vision, fairly contrast blind person here who tried silver blue. I had a hard time with the install process of silver blue. The whole installer is super tiny, and I couldn't find a way to make the print bigger. I couldn't get to a zoom option, and I couldn't turn on the night color to make the screen not burn my eyes. It was enough friction that I've already moved on, but for those who care about the distro and want to make it better, I wanted to let you know.

To Reproduce Please describe the steps needed to reproduce the bug:

  1. .. Have low vision and extreme blue light sensitivity
  2. .. Try to install silverblue from USB and decide eye pain and having face 1 inch from screen isn't worth it.

Expected behavior A clear and concise description of what you expected to happen.

Low vision, light sensitive user will have pain, be unable to clearly see options, become annoyed with friction, and move to another distro.

OS version: Silverblue downloaded from main site about October 15, 2023

Additional context Add any other context about the problem here.

Could be fixed by making all boot screen text as large as possible without breaking user interface. Scrolling will take the same amount of time even if options are bigger and fewer display on screen at once. Could menus have 22 pt font? 18 pt?

Could choose black background with white text for highest contrast, to be friendly to monochromatic colorblind people and e-ink screen users, and to protect light sensitive eyes as much as possible. Eliminate blue color from boot screens to protect people's eyes.

Relevant science: https://soundcloud.com/bitesz-com/05-dr-stephen-mason-eye . LEDs ANSES’s recommendations for limiting exposure to blue light Anses - Agence nationale de sécurité sanitaire de l’alimentation, de l’environnement et du travail.pdf Blue light pollution causes retinal damage and degeneration by inducing ferroptosis.pdf

juhp commented 8 months ago

Fedora Workstation Live is better since a11y can be enabled in the Live image?

cc @tyrylu FYI

chloe-everhart commented 8 months ago

In the distros I prefer, the part where you see the boot up words is green or yellow or white or pink or yellow on a black background.

Then I navigate as quickly as possible to system settings and change it to night color.  Night color in GNOME, in gnome I set it all but one minute per day, in KDE set to always on.

Then I change scaling to 200%.  These settings don't seem to affect the size of the words in the install program at all, so I end up using the built in zoom to do the install. Sometimes I use built in soom on other things. 

Silverblue would be a lot more friendly to people in more situations with some minor style changes to the format of the install process.  Just how my eyes see it.  People develop stuff they like and use, and I'm grateful there's stuff that usually works pretty well for me.  I'm grateful to all the people who put time in FOSS projects, even if sometimes the results don't quite suite me.

Sometimes there's something I can do about it.  I figured out how to change the .cfg in puppy linux boot to have a black, yellow, and green color scheme on line 5&6.

Just from memory, there was a lot of blue or white space on the screen, and the words were way too small for my eyes.  

Just suggesting a dark screen menu with light or white colored letters in big font for the most visibility to most people. One of my friends told me for every person who reports an issue, 8 don't, so I decided to try to tell my experience.-- Sent with Tutanota; enjoy secure & ad-free emails: https://tutanota.com

Oct 18, 2023, 22:23 by @.***:

Fedora Workstation Live is better since a11y can be enabled in the Live image?

cc > @tyrylu https://github.com/tyrylu> FYI

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tyrylu commented 8 months ago

Actually, this issue is not for me, as the zoom and related options are used by very different people than me.

travier commented 8 months ago

Thanks a lot for reporting this. I'm hoping that the new Anaconda Web based UI (https://fedoramagazine.org/anaconda-web-ui-preview-image-now-public/) will improve on this front (as it would be "easier" to make a dark mode and zoom the entire interface) but I have not tested it yet.

firefoxlover commented 7 months ago

uhm, that preview WebUI is not scaled at all currently, so hopes are up but this doesnt seem planned, just like a dark mode.