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From: David Clunie
Date: Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: QIN DSC MRI analysis challenge: parsing out timing information
To: "Chenevert, Tom", Andrey Fedorov>, "Prah, Melissa"
Cc: "Malyarenko, Dariya" , "Schmainda, Kathleen", Jayashree Kalpathy-Cramer , "Cao, Yue"
Hi Tom
I heard back from GE about the particular pulse sequence
that was used in the case I was looking at (Pulse Sequence
Name (0019,109c) = "epepi11"), and the slices at different
locations in the same pass are spread across the repetition
but interleaved. GE wrote:
"For EPI DSC perfusion scan, #acqs usually is 1. With this
in mind, DT for the i-th slice (iSlc, starting from 1) at
the j-th pass (jPass, starting from 1) can be calculated
as follows (assuming the number of slices is #slices):
DT(iSlc, jPass) = TR*(jPass-1)+TR/#slices*kAcqOrder,
where kAcqOrder is the index of acquisition order, starting
from 1.
Since interleaved acquisition order is used, the relation
between slice order and acquisition order is:
Slice_Order (iSlc) Acquisition_Order (kAcqOrder)
1 1
2 4
3 2
4 5
5 3"
Since GE's formula describes kAcqOrder as starting from 1, not
zero, this means that the time from the formula for the first
slice would be TR/#slices, rather than zero.
So I assume it describes the end time of acquisition of
each slice, not the start time (the definition of the
corresponding DICOM attribute being start time).
David
In some situations, all time-stamps may be missing, and the following strategy may be needed, as discussed by Tom Chenevert/UMich in the context of QIN DSC analysis challenge: