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A Terminal Emulator based on UWP and web technologies.
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[Suggestion] New logo #203

Closed hanskokx closed 5 years ago

hanskokx commented 5 years ago

I've been working on an idea for an updated logo, using the existing one as a base. Feedback? 48x48 1280x1280

ericcornelissen commented 5 years ago

Can I ask what your motivation for this change is? It's not clear to me what the additional line is supposed to represent 🤔

hanskokx commented 5 years ago

Sure; fair question.  Here was my thought process in designing it:

The current logo accurately represents the product, however I believe that visibility could be improved.  As it stands, with just a white logo it will get lost on a white background.  Including a framing device will naturally give it contrast.  That way, on a white background, you wouldn't have to change the color - and therefore the branding - of the logo.

The line on the bottom has a few purposes:

1) It offers a suggestion of depth.  It could be viewed as the side of a 3D box, suggesting FluentTerminal has depth. 2) It is representative of the tab bar. 3) It acts as a form of punctuation; and "underline", if you will.  It's a subtle way of saying, "This is your terminal."

Does that help?

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felixse commented 5 years ago

I'm not a fan of the black background. I would like to keep the icon a single colored shape to be in line with the rest of the Windows 10 icons.

I think we should make the prompt symbol more unique, for example by adding some perspective to it (similar to the current Visual Studio icons) or something

ericcornelissen commented 5 years ago

I agree with @felixse, but I think your argument (contrast and recoloring) is pretty strong @skipmeister123. Even with your explanation I still don't like the line at the bottom though 😅 but that's pure personal preference

I think we should make the prompt symbol more unique, for example by adding some perspective to it (similar to the current Visual Studio icons) or something

I expect it will be difficult to do that without looking to much like the Visual Studio icons, and I don't think it is a good idea to have logo that people will associate with that brand if it's not actually related.

hanskokx commented 5 years ago

I'm going to think on this and come up with a second proposal.

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moigagoo commented 5 years ago

I don't like the new one either. What's the purpose of the horizontal line?

Tommasov commented 5 years ago

I've got your point... and I agree. This is how it looks like in my taskbar: taskbar This is your logo: taskbarnew

Maybe not black but I like the solid background color.

ericcornelissen commented 5 years ago

@moigagoo as mentioned in this comment:

The line on the bottom has a few purposes: 1) It offers a suggestion of depth. It could be viewed as the side of a 3D box, suggesting FluentTerminal has depth. 2) It is representative of the tab bar. 3) It acts as a form of punctuation; and "underline", if you will. It's a subtle way of saying, "This is your terminal."

@Tommasov I can see why you would want that in your task bar, but maybe not in other places like the system tray :thinking: Also, UWP apps by Microsoft (e.g. Calculator and Groove in your screenshots) tend to have the same style. I'm not saying we must follow that but it's word considering. Just my two cents :slightly_smiling_face:

mikemaccana commented 5 years ago

This is a Windows 10-style icon, designed to fit in with Edge, vscode, Office and other recent Microsoft apps.

The points used in the vector come from Microsoft's own Powershell icon. Let me know what you think.

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I have the vector source and the .ico file - I can send a PR if you like it, just tell me where to put them!

felixse commented 5 years ago

I don't know about the blue, but I like the shape 👍

mikemaccana commented 5 years ago

Thanks @felixse! 😃 Would you prefer to keep white or a different color?

moigagoo commented 5 years ago

Love the new variant ❤

UPD: I dig @felixse 's the anti-blue sentiment: There's too much blue in Windows already! MS uses it because it's safe and sort of their default color.

As a third-party app, Fluent Terminal can use any color. How about some sexy gradient?

musm commented 5 years ago

I like the shape not soo sure I like the color through

hanskokx commented 5 years ago

I'm still working my way through the design process for a second pass at this.

hanskokx commented 5 years ago

How about something that fits the Fluent design language? These are based off of Microsoft's new Office suite of icons.

FluentTerminalIcon FluentTerminalIcon-64

hanskokx commented 5 years ago

Alternative gradient:

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mikemaccana commented 5 years ago

I don't think the new Office icons are a good fit for Fluent.

Office icons are unique though in that they have a letter - O, X, P, etc + and have to 'honor the heritage' - https://medium.com/microsoft-design/redesigning-the-office-app-icons-to-embrace-a-new-world-of-work-91d72608ee8f.

W stands for word, the thing behind that is a Word document: X stands for Excel, the thing behind that is a spreadsheet:

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If Fluent Terminal was going to do the same thing, it'd be an F with a terminal behind it. But Fluent isn't an Office app - it's a Windows one.

felixse commented 5 years ago

Another problem would be the scaling for the SystemTray, context menu. I think a clear shape based icon would perform better in smaller sizes.

For the color I would say white and also a black version to support the new light theme in 19H1. I'm not sure about a gradient, but I'm open for proposals 😄

moigagoo commented 5 years ago

@mikemaccana I wanted to bring in the Powershell Preview icon as an example of icon design I like, but I see you don't like it much 😂: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/7441

I do like Powershell Preview icon though. It's fun. It may need some finetuning for small sizes, but I like the idea behind it. I'd love Fluent Terminal to have a funkier icon than a conventional monochrome blue or green or white or black one.

Anyway, I like your icon. I can see why Powershell team declined it (they're not entirely free to choose), and I can see it in Fluent Terminal. My wish for an alternative, funkier variant with a gradient, is absolutely optional.

P.S. I never knew it was the Powershell girl's hair in the icon. Just looks nice IMHO, funny colors and stuff ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

mikemaccana commented 5 years ago

For the color I would say white and also a black version to support the new light theme in 19H1.

Sure, white:

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Dark version, shown with light theme:

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Both colors taken from same as Windows icon (FBFBFB for white, full black for black).

@felixse Can you make the icon color change with the theme?

felixse commented 5 years ago

https://blog.mzikmund.com/2018/11/supporting-light-theme-taskbar-icons-in-uwp/ Should be no problem

hanskokx commented 5 years ago

I can get behind your design. Great work. 👍

mikemaccana commented 5 years ago

@felixse Want me to add the svg to the repo? Where should I put it?

felixse commented 5 years ago

@mikemaccana Yes sure, thanks a lot 😃 Just create a 'Icon Source' folder or something like that in the root directory