Proposal: expire datacap not used by allocators

willscott commented 6 months ago

If an allocator doesn't take any action on chain in a month after datacap is allocated to them by the fil+ program, it seems maybe worthwhile to revoke that allowance and ask them to re-apply in the rolling applications once their system is ready to distribute datacap.

It seems like there's risk associated with having large outstanding / fragmented allowances.

willscott commented 5 months ago

I haven't heard objections here -is it to go ahead with this?

galen-mcandrew commented 5 months ago

We should discuss in the next governance call. I think a month is too short, and we have heard from teams that require longer to build and test pathways. This is also more likely the case for more of the automated and market-based pathways.

I think we could amend this proposal. What about:

For allocators that have not made an initial allocation (beyond a testing amount) in 6 weeks
AND have not replied to comms requests with a reasonable updated timeline and explanation of inactivity
OR allocators with no allocations across 8 weeks (gap in activity)

willscott commented 5 months ago

those proposed limits sound fine to me

Kevin-FF-USA commented 5 months ago

Will add to the upcoming https://github.com/filecoin-project/Allocator-Governance/issues/48 and leave a comment in each Application.

Key Points

Needed: Provide an updated timeline for onboarding pathway and client outreach"
Needed: Response or action by June 24

Here are the Allocators who would be impacted. Please see discussion https://github.com/filecoin-project/Allocator-Governance/discussions/59 for additional metrics

//edit Updated per input from Organization for activity Twinquasar - CIDgravity | f03019296 Twinquasar - CIDgravity | f03019298

s0nik42 commented 5 months ago

Hi! We're currently developing our Pathways We have a whole stack to develop. We released our new product offers that include Datacap and automatic datacap allocation : last week : https://www.cidgravity.com/pricing

This is covering our 3 pathways.

Julien

galen-mcandrew commented 5 months ago

We are also working to clean up old allocations, from previous election cycles. This will include removing DataCap from the previous LDN multisigs, as well as the previous 'direct client request pathways'.

Flagging this, as it has been discussed a few times in various governance calls. These notaries go back to the third round of elections in some cases!

luhong123 commented 5 months ago

https://github.com/luhong123/QC-Data-center/issues/1 We are working on a series of tests, including spark retrieval access, so please give us some time!

ipfsAllen commented 5 months ago

Hello, I'm sorry for the late reply. I started DC allocation, and I will do allocation according to the trench schedule. https://github.com/ipfsAllen/Fil-DC-Allocator-Allen/issues And I am going to participate in the Allocator Call.

woshidama323 commented 5 months ago

Hello , This is Harry from TopBlocks, Sorry for missing so important key info We are working on it and will update recently Also will take part in the next allocator call

But May i ask you for help

My ledger address comes from LedgerLive, but it seems that it different from allocator website Ledger nano s Want to change address from "f13scefkwue5cpivykug4qod4tkcmuqf4bgu7yzsy" to f1ez4nfx4lbqmddefk3gpqisf2xcfr3g6qm4qes7i Also update 1069
Transfer Topblocks repo from filplus-bookkeeping to TopBlocks It could be convenient for us to handle new tools in the future

Also json file 1069.json need to be updated

Thanks

TitanNet commented 4 months ago

Hello,

We would like to retain the Allocator.

We are currently undergoing a comprehensive product upgrade for our hot storage product, Titan Storage, to ensure it offers a better user experience and enhanced service capabilities. We will commence allocation shortly.

Demo: Titan Storage Demo Code Repository: GitHub - Titan Storage SDK

newwebgroup commented 4 months ago

Hello, this is Newwebgroup. We apologize for the omission of such important and critical information.

We plan to start distributing DC soon, and will proceed with the allocation in a reasonable and compliant manner according to the plan.

Kevin-FF-USA commented 4 months ago

Hello, this is Newwebgroup. We apologize for the omission of such important and critical information.

We plan to start distributing DC soon, and will proceed with the allocation in a reasonable and compliant manner according to the plan.

Hi @newwebgroup Thanks for posting and confirming the organization wishes to proceed as an Allocator. To make sure we have a action plan, can you please provide

A timeline for distributions (more specific than "soon"). Ideally, showing activity within the coming two weeks
Any client outreach you have started or have scoped for work.

Warmly, -Kevin

ipfscn commented 4 months ago

Hello, here is ipfscn. Thank you for the reminder. We have already started the allocation.

https://github.com/filplus-bookkeeping/IPFSCN/issues

stcloudlisa commented 4 months ago

We have preliminary agreements with some partner clients. But now there is a configuration issue that prevents us from carrying out our work. Please check this issue, https://github.com/filecoin-project/Allocator-Registry/issues/79 . Once this issue is resolved, we should be able to proceed with our allocation work quickly.

Kevin-FF-USA commented 4 months ago

We have preliminary agreements with some partner clients. But now there is a configuration issue that prevents us from carrying out our work. Please check this issue, filecoin-project/Allocator-Registry#79 . Once this issue is resolved, we should be able to proceed with our allocation work quickly.

Hi @stcloudlisa Which organization is this for? Shenzhen SpaceTime Cloud Technology Co.; Ltd., STCloud?

stcloudlisa commented 4 months ago

We have preliminary agreements with some partner clients. But now there is a configuration issue that prevents us from carrying out our work. Please check this issue, filecoin-project/Allocator-Registry#79 . Once this issue is resolved, we should be able to proceed with our allocation work quickly.

Hi @stcloudlisa Which organization is this for? Shenzhen SpaceTime Cloud Technology Co.; Ltd., STCloud?

The application we originally applied for was here. https://github.com/filecoin-project/notary-governance/issues/1038. Our organization's name is this Shenzhen SpaceTime Cloud Technology Co., Ltd. The name of this organization may also need to be revised

Kevin-FF-USA commented 4 months ago

We have preliminary agreements with some partner clients. But now there is a configuration issue that prevents us from carrying out our work. Please check this issue, filecoin-project/Allocator-Registry#79 . Once this issue is resolved, we should be able to proceed with our allocation work quickly.

Hi @stcloudlisa Which organization is this for? Shenzhen SpaceTime Cloud Technology Co.; Ltd., STCloud?

The application we originally applied for was here. filecoin-project/notary-governance#1038. Our organization's name is this Shenzhen SpaceTime Cloud Technology Co., Ltd. The name of this organization may also need to be revised

Carrying forward a DM into this thread (for transparency) Organization reached out, due to a bookkeeping issue will not be sunset for DataCap - but will be taking action to start distributions within the next 30 days

Kevin-FF-USA commented 4 months ago

https://github.com/filecoin-project/notary-governance/issues/1084#issuecomment-2160806913

Lighthouse

Kevin-FF-USA commented 4 months ago

https://github.com/filecoin-project/notary-governance/issues/1088#issuecomment-2161946255

Antpool

Kevin-FF-USA commented 4 months ago

Remaining Organizations

These organizations have yet to provide a timeline or taken any action for DataCap distribution. If not response by end of day, will have the DataCap sunset and need to reapply.

Messages sent to each Application, Governance calls for 28May, 11June, 25June, as well as SLACK.

lksbrssr commented 4 months ago

Hi @Kevin-FF-USA ! Thanks for reaching out. We wish to remain active. We are in the process of onboarding several PiBs of capacity and have allocated much of the available capacity to storage clients already. We expect to begin using the datacap allocated to this our allocator pathway in the next month.

Kevin-FF-USA commented 4 months ago

Final list of inactive Allocators who are being sunset

filecoin-project / Allocator-Governance

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