fixthestatusquo / archive-proca-backend

Backend for the ultimate petition/campaigning tool
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Integration with external CRMs #10

Open tttp opened 4 years ago

tttp commented 4 years ago

the aim of proca is to be able to push the signatures and supporters contact details to the organisers' communication tools (CRM, mailinglist...).

This is triggered by an event in proca (eg new petition signature), might need a different workflow based on the event data (eg push it to the mailing list only if the signatory optsin).

In the future, these events/workflow could be chained, like:

Shall we write ad-hoc components to integrate with various CRMs (eg one for civi, one for mailchimp...)?

Or should we already integrate with a event/agent & automation system? at these opensource ones seems to be interesting:

Requirements for going external:

and ideally having a batch mode (ie. instead of triggering one call per event, being able to batch them, like all the signatures in the past minute or by batch of 100)

I think we should go with an existing event/workflow system eventually, not sure when

Right now, we need a system to export signatures, at minima as a CSV ;)

tttp commented 4 years ago

@marcinkoziej this needs clarification and brainstorm when you are back from holidays ;)

marcinkoziej commented 4 years ago

The action pipeline

My idea for conceptualizing all this post-processing is an action "pipeline", which is an ordered set of functions which will be called in asynchronous manner on the signature (or different action).

I think that pipeline will be set per-action_page, because there could be maybe different opt in policies, and different CRM's to post to.

So for instance, for a new signature:

An external service could be called by "webhook" pipeline steps. There would be two types:

Webhooks and DOS

I think we should read a little bit more about webhook delivery issues, I found this: https://techblog.commercetools.com/webhooks-the-devil-in-the-details-ca7f7982c24f and after reading it I realized that proca should also not implement this functionality. If we say "let's keep the system minimal, let the external system send emails to targets, etc", then why should we implement a message queue? Let's make AsyncWebhook and SyncWebhook post to RabbitMQ or other queues, and the client can use standard MQ APIs to get messahes without losses and at pace they want. We assume we setup proca<->MQ communication will be ok with just resending messages on delivery failure (say, if MQ is down for a while, the background worker will resend messages to it).

marcinkoziej commented 4 years ago

Automation systems

These look very coooool. Maybe we can set up one of them to check out how easy/hard it is to use them? And what can be done with them? Can they implement the double opt in mechanics?

tttp commented 4 years ago

So what you suggest (trying to make explicit limitations/simplifications):

Proca is responsible to maintain the state (position in the workflow) for every signature.

What about we turn that on its head and we let the external systems handle the state, eg instead of pushing each signature to the CRM (+risk of DoSing it), we let the external system fetch (give me up to 100 signatures after id=xyz - or timestamp)

the CRM - or external system- being in charge of knowing what it fetched last and what it needs to fetch

to make it more responsive, we can have a webhook to notify (max once per every x second) than a new signature has been collected

yeah, worth looking at automation system, great idea!

marcinkoziej commented 4 years ago

Yes, they would not be done in parallel. This could have a consequence, that if the primary recipient (CRM) is down, the signature is not pushed to secondary system (analytic system, although usually you connect it to CRM and not action tool yeah?). The win: more predictable consistency among distributed system.

marcinkoziej commented 3 years ago

Writing integrations (using push or pull) is now a lot easier with @proca/cli