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Modifying existing loadouts with WS+RF #421

Open costno opened 5 months ago

costno commented 5 months ago

Updated planned changes Impending changes:

All Factions

3IFB

AAF

CTRG

FIA

LDF

NATO

NPR

Syndikat


Original Post:

I'm not going to advocate for adding any factions to assignGear until someone does the ever-elusive refactor (PMC and UN templates when?), but we could change some stuff using the new gear from the CDLCs.

FIA:

CSAT:

SA-77 7.62 mg with 100 round belts probably belongs in some of the factions, maybe FIA MMG

Not directly tied to WS+RF but I'd like to give medics specific backpacks. Medical branch gave them _bagLarge but for some factions that means the carryall which looks kind of goofy. I'd like to make medics visually distinct and use the tactical backpack.

Also, FIA and AAF RATs should use RPG-42s. These are more interesting from a gameplay perspective vs the kill anything anywhere anytime MAAWS. MAT stays the same

Thoughts? Also post other things I've missed.

Aqarius90 commented 5 months ago

As previously stated, the basic helmets are a bit... basic, the FIA thing I agree.

Crawling through what we use now, a few thoughts:

costno commented 5 months ago

As previously stated, the basic helmets are a bit... basic, the FIA thing I agree.

Crawling through what we use now, a few thoughts:

  • Of the 13 (11, really) factions, 4 (3IFB, NPR, Spetznaz and Syndikat) are all AK based, It would be cool to swap, eg. Syndikat to R5GL/R4/R5 gl/r/car. Maybe mix in some Galats. Also, we use 4-Five as "Nato gun" (NATO, LDF, CTRG), give Synds deagles.

  • Sounds cool. I would think maybe NPR with R5 makes sense as it's not unlike a Beryl for our not unlike Poland LDF deserters

  • Same as above, retool Spetznaz for Veles, maybe? No idea what the AR would be.

  • My only concern here is that the Veles is very much a special purpose CQB weapon, and the AK-12s + RPK 12s make the most sense for Spetznaz. Veles being low velocity will make it difficult to use outside of urban combat.

  • SA-77 and Hades come in green digi camo, and can replace Zafir and Mk18 as MMG and DM for AAF.

  • Yes but also I like the plain black in general more than any gun that has digi camo print in game.

  • It occurs to me that CTRG loadouts are SPAR-16(556), SPAR-17(762, DM), and LRR(AT gun, SN). Would it make sense to switch DM/SN to black Hades/Spar-17?

  • LRR is the intervention, which you have to have for CTRG ever since all ghillied up.

  • ATM, only NPR has a shotgunner (Kozlice). Which faction would benefit from the AA-12?

  • PMC/ION in the future.

  • MMG, right now, CSAT/CSATP have Navids, CTRG, NATO and LDF use SPMGs, everyone else (6 factions) uses Zafirs. We could mix it up with SA-77/SA-77C for, let's say, AAF, FIA, and Syndikat.

  • Heavy agree.

costno commented 5 months ago

In addition to FIA aesthetic changes, are we opposed to giving Syndikat green vests (WS version of their current black vest) and boonies/bandannas/baseball caps (or would that make them too much like FIA). I figure 3IFB is our real beret faction.

I'm in favor of making Syndikat our Velko users as well if only because we have a lot of AK factions.

Aqarius90 commented 5 months ago

Also, Gendarmerie marksman currently uses a SPAR. Would Hades be a better fit?

costno commented 5 months ago

I'm feeling like the Hades, while very fun mechanically, only really makes sense for an underfunded guerrilla force. It's a civilian hunting/sport rifle, and with the number of semi-auto DM rifles in the game I think that the Hades only really makes sense for FIA, NPR, and maybe Gendarmerie