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A community contributed game system for Pathfinder Second Edition.
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Remaster: Administer First Aid (Stop Bleeding) does not indicate lowered DC for appropriate help #11865

Closed Pexpy closed 11 months ago

Pexpy commented 11 months ago

In the Remaster, Administer First Aid to stop bleeding was clarified to refer to the assisted recovery rules for persistent damage. It also newly indicates that it is 'particularly appropriate help' which lets the target roll a DC 10 instead of DC 15 flat check to end the bleed damage. Foundry pf2e 5.9.5 differs from the version in Player Core, and most importantly, makes no references to this lowered DC effect.

Please compare the two excerpts (the rest of the action is identical; differences are indicated in italics) Foundry version

Stop Bleeding Attempt a Medicine check on a creature that is taking persistent bleed damage, giving them a chance to make another flat check to remove the persistent damage. The DC is usually the DC of the effect that caused the bleed. Success If you're trying to stabilize, the creature loses the dying condition (but remains Unconscious). If you're trying to stop bleeding, the creature attempts a flat check to end the bleeding.

Player Core (p241-242)

Stop Bleeding Attempt a Medicine check on a creature that is taking persistent bleed damage (page 409). The DC is usually the DC of the effect that caused the bleed. Success If you’re trying to stabilize, the target loses the dying condition (but remains unconscious). If you’re trying to stop bleeding, the target benefits from an assisted recovery (page 445) with the lowered DC for particularly appropriate help.

Additionally when the player uses the "Administer First Aid - Stop Bleeding - Medicine Check' action macro, this is listed:

Success The creature attempts a flat check to end the bleeding.

The roll macro makes no mention of granting the lowered DC and should instead read:

Success The target benefits from an assisted recovery with the lowered DC for particularly appropriate help

tdhsmith commented 11 months ago

This content looks to have been added by @avagdumortesin in #11782, just hasn't been in a release yet.

avagdumortesin commented 11 months ago

Yes, this should be in the next release. Closing.

avagdumortesin commented 11 months ago

Actually; going to reopen this. I did not modify the text for the macro so that will need to be updated

avagdumortesin commented 11 months ago

Macro text update has been merged; closing this again... for realsies this time.