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Non sequencial final invoice number - Blocking accountacy issue for France, Swiss, Germany (at least) #22582

Open AmauryVanEspen opened 4 years ago

AmauryVanEspen commented 4 years ago

Draft is not a submitted invoice. Once it is posted, it can't be changed. Deletion can be controlled via permissions. Those who have access to the database (self hosted) can do whatever they want. Most countries have systems to generate invoice numbers via government API. 3rd party validation is the only way this is fool proof. Rest is notional. …

Indeed, drafts are not submitted invoices, but they are nevertheless being given Invoice numbers.

We all understand that everything is mutable if you have access to the hardware, but this is more of a workflow issue. Notional or not, many of us are bound by accounting standards that insist on strictly sequential documentation. If we create a draft and then decide not to submit it, what is the correct way to move forward?

Originally posted by @theopen-institute in https://github.com/frappe/erpnext/issues/8765#issuecomment-652261056

dalers commented 4 years ago

This isn't my domain, can anyone comment on if and how strictly sequential documentation applies in Canada?

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Draft is not a submitted invoice. Once it is posted, it can't be changed. Deletion can be controlled via permissions. Those who have access to the database (self hosted) can do whatever they want. Most countries have systems to generate invoice numbers via government API. 3rd party validation is the only way this is fool proof. Rest is notional. [ https://wm-no.glb.shawcable.net/zimbra/mail# | … ] Indeed, drafts are not submitted invoices, but they are nevertheless being given Invoice numbers.

We all understand that everything is mutable if you have access to the hardware, but this is more of a workflow issue. Notional or not, many of us are bound by accounting standards that insist on strictly sequential documentation. If we create a draft and then decide not to submit it, what is the correct way to move forward?

Originally posted by [ https://github.com/theopen-institute | @theopen-institute ] in [ https://github.com/frappe/erpnext/issues/8765#issuecomment-652261056 |

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mvincent514 commented 4 years ago

It may look dumb but what if drafts get their own invoice naming series and once submitted, it takes a valid naming serie invoice? Is it possible to do so?

AmauryVanEspen commented 4 years ago

Hello, is there any suggestion about fonctional or technical workaround for this issue ?

AmauryVanEspen commented 4 years ago

Hello, it seems the issue could be solved by a PR (import) from Dokos https://gitlab.com/dokos/dokos/-/tree/develop/erpnext which manage the constraint of legal and compliant invoicing sytem Could you tell us more please ? Thank you Amaury

aakvatech commented 4 years ago

It may look dumb but what if drafts get their own invoice naming series and once submitted, it takes a valid naming serie invoice? Is it possible to do so?

This is a good suggestion as well, and also under the scope of ERPNext rather than affecting the Frappe functionality. Would this be applicable to certain types of DocTypes only? or would it be required as a blanket requirement across all the DocTypes?

tstrohmeier commented 3 years ago

Are there any news on this topic?

AmauryVanEspen commented 3 years ago

I believe no one at Frappe cares about it. I've left the solution for another one more compliant and with support

Le mar. 26 oct. 2021 à 14:20, Thomas Strohmeier @.***> a écrit :

Are there any news on this topic?

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