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hand-written dictionaries from the FreeDict project
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Update german-english dictionary #44

Closed jonathan-s closed 3 weeks ago

jonathan-s commented 5 years ago

The following dictionary is open source and has fairly good meta data. https://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~fri/ding/

You can download the text dictionary here: https://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/Local/urz/ding/de-en/

It would be great if the german dictionary could put this to use!

humenda commented 5 years ago

Hi

The following dictionary is open source and has fairly good meta data. We already use this dictionary, though in a very old revision. There's also a draft of a new importer script / program on branch extend_ding2tei_grammar_parsing_capabilities. Would you have time to look into this? The architecture isn't ideal yet.

Thanks

jonathan-s commented 5 years ago

I can only see the master branch.

micha137 commented 5 years ago

It is a branch in the tools repository: https://github.com/freedict/tools/tree/extend_ding2tei_grammar_parsing_capabilities

humenda commented 5 years ago

@jonathan-s Have you had time to look at the current implementation draft? I won't have time for it in the next months, but it'd be good to see progress here. Please let us know if we can help out.

jonathan-s commented 5 years ago

@humenda So far what I've done is that I downloaded the dictionary form dict.cc and turned that into a more usable format for myself. It'd be possible to adapt that script to more towards the format that freedict uses.

humenda commented 5 years ago

Is this under a free license? If so, it might be a good addition (or replacement) for what we currently have.

What format is "usable" for you? We export to Slob these days, which seems the most feature-rich and maintained dictionary format these days.

jonathan-s commented 5 years ago

Ah, looks like it might not be under a free license -> https://www1.dict.cc/translation_file_request.php?l=e

jonathan-s commented 5 years ago

Though sending an email to Paul, the owner of dict.cc might be worth it and see what he says.

humenda commented 5 years ago

This license is strange: the data is closed source, yet programs using it must be GPL :). I'm afraid we cannot use this. That is a pitty.

jonathan-s commented 5 years ago

Try and send him an email and ask him about it. Not too long ago I sent him a feature request and he replied, so he seems forthcoming in replying at least. Besides, that agreement hasn't had any change since 2005, so the circumstances might have changed. Unless you ask, you won't know :)

jonathan-s commented 5 years ago

It's worth noting that the dictionary at dict.cc is based on the dictionary from here: https://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/doc/faq.en.html which is under GPL license, since GPL is a copyleft, the dictionary that you're able to to download at dict.cc should fall under the same terms.

humenda commented 5 years ago

Now that you're mentioning it, I remember having investigated this as well. We're trying to import the original ATM. I wonder whether staying with the original or the fork is better. I'll sort this out as soon as time permits. Unless somebody else steps up :).

humenda commented 3 weeks ago

We have addressed this with a new importer from Einhard Leichtfuss, so we're shipping the up-to-date version