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[EXE] Flickering when capturing Pinball FX2 #43

Closed Koplings closed 6 years ago

Koplings commented 7 years ago

not sure if this the right place but I thought id try

1) am trying to use dmd ext with FX2 and get extreme flickering on my pindmd3. i've tried adjusting visual effects and boosting the dmdext frame grab rate but no improvement - any suggestions

2) do I have to type in the cmd prompt every time I want to use it? what i'm trying to do is have it work through pinball so that when I open up a table it automatically puts the dmd on the pindmd3. cant figure out how to do this

freezy commented 7 years ago

Yes, this is the preferred place, thanks!

  1. System specs and log please
  2. No, you can run it automatically through PinballX.
Koplings commented 7 years ago

1) sorry - what specs do you mean? im running windows 7, i5, GeForce gtx 1060 so I think I have lots of power, thanks for your help I really appreciate it. let me know what else you need

2) also what log are you referring to so I make sure I grab the right one...thanks

thanks a bunch - your program looks really cool if I can iron these kinks out. cheers

freezy commented 7 years ago

Yes, OS version and bitness also please. Win7 x64 I assume? Also, does the flickering occur when you run it directly and not via PinballX?

The log is what's displayed in the console when running dmdext. If there is nothing, make sure you copied dmdext.log.config along with dmdext.exe.

Koplings commented 7 years ago

ok ill try tomorrow morning when im back home and send it to you. thanks again.

Koplings commented 7 years ago

Hi there- tried a few things but still no luck

1) Running windows 7 64bit. flickering occurs when I run pinball fx2 directly; haven't yet figured out how to get it working in pinballx but I haven't tried that hard since I need to fix the flickering first. i'm basically just doing steps 1 to 6 in the "Pinball FX2" part of your guide plus the "Troubleshooting" section.

2) I've tried and tried but I cant seem to create a log file. but what I have attached is the cmd prompt window screen capture if that helps. Is that good enough or do I need to keep trying to create a log file somehow - i've read and tried steps 1. and 2. under the reporting bugs section but no log

here is the screen capture:

log

3) Couple ideas:

a) i'm running a later version of .net (4.6.2 i think?) that I had to go to for some reason I cant remember for VP or FP or DOFlinx R3 or something. I don't want to roll back to 4.5.2 if I don't have to and break something else. should that make a difference?

b) I didn't do anything under the "visual PinMAME" section of your guide (VPM recently introduced...). Again I didn't want to break anything elsewhere if that was irrelevant since its been a pain to get PinMAME working properly over the years. would that have anything to do with it?

thanks again - would be great to get this working

freezy commented 7 years ago

.NET version shouldn't matter as long as it's at least 4.5. Are you able to make a video of the flickering? Preferably slow motion if you have a camera that supports it. What happens if you decrease the fps way down to let's say 1 fps? Does it still flicker then?

freezy commented 7 years ago

Dropbox or maybe Youtube, Vimeo or any of all those video hosting services?

Koplings commented 7 years ago

Ok I think I have it - Let me know if these links don’t work

freezy commented 7 years ago

Thanks, that's really weird. First I need to figure out if the problem is the input or the output. Can you try the mirror feature and let me know if you have the same flickering?

Koplings commented 7 years ago

sorry i'm looking at your guide and I don't know what that means. do I run the cmd and put in something different?

freezy commented 7 years ago

Just run dmdext mirror -s screen which will mirror the top left corner of your screen. It uses a slightly different capture method, so if that works then that's the problem.

If it doesn't it would be good to test with a completely different capture method, e.g. Pro Pinball or Pinball Arcade. If you have neither, VPM output through DmdDevice.dll would be interesting to see.

Koplings commented 7 years ago

hey I think we are getting somewhere!. see the attached video - no flickering but something else than the dmd is now on the dmd. does this mean I just have to play around with the dmd placement settings or something in fx2 to get it to capture the dmd or is that too easy...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/shiaql4tr7mflhg/using%20mirror.mp4?dl=0

Koplings commented 7 years ago

it looks to me like the dmd is now displaying some portion of the top right o the playfield and not flickering. any idea

1) what values I might use in the fx cabinent support dmd orientation now that things are "mirrored"; fumbling around and not sure where I might start

2) how do I run through pinball x. do I have to put something in the "launch before" part in settings to allow this to run?

Koplings commented 7 years ago

I just thought id check after i've been monkeying around - I can now see the upper left corner of the playfield screen being captured and displayed on the DMD; does that mean I can now somehow use this dmdext mirror to solve my problem or does that mean something else. thanks for your patience...

freezy commented 7 years ago

I use a different method for capturing Pinball FX2's DMD than the normal screen mirror because it must work even if the DMD's hidden behind the playfield, i.e. capturing invisible pixels. Seems like that doesn't work very well on your system.

I'm kind of out of ideas on this one. I could add an option to use the other capturing method, but then you'll need to have the DMD somewhere visible on the computer screen, which isn't optimal. Also it would come with some code refactoring to make it proper.

I would suggest you double check the workaround xman72 posted. I'll do some more research on the topic and let you know if I find something.

freezy commented 7 years ago

Oh, just to confirm. You got the same weird flickering without the --without-virtual option on the virtual DMD, right?

Koplings commented 7 years ago

I think what ill do is with a fresh set of eyes later today go through everything from the beginning in case ive missed anything. ill post some vids again once i'm done so we can check off whats not working. I really appreciate your help

Koplings commented 7 years ago

ok just so we are in synch here is what I have done today:

a) run "dmdext test" (no flickering on either dmd or virtual)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4q8hdook08nc1l2/a.mp4?dl=0

b) run "dmdext mirror --source=pinballfx2 --no-virtual" (flickering on dmd); I double checked the xman72 workaround and all boxes are checked under adjust for best appearance and still no luck

https://www.dropbox.com/s/v8o8bz3xagf2uiz/b.mp4?dl=0

c) run "dmdext mirror -s screen" - (no flickering on dmd)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/acs37t2xsv9le2n/c.mp4?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/v7fbvhviwxur1ii/c2.mp4?dl=0

d) run "dmdext mirror -source=pinballfx2" (for sure still flickering on dmd but maybe not on virtual? I cant tell)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/san63ioafmt5f68/d.mp4?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t3vo0westweasbo/d2.mp4?dl=0

Couple ideas

Koplings commented 7 years ago

actually option c) with the virtual dmd in the bottom left corner of the playfield plus the real dmd on the dmd would be kinda cool....o:)

Koplings commented 7 years ago

also I know you've spent a lot of time on this. let me know how I can repay the favour

freezy commented 7 years ago

d2.mp4 doesn't show anything on the DMDs. It would be interesting to see what the virtual DMD displays when PinDMD3 flickers. I suppose Fireball doesn't have any DMD anyway since it's an EM?

In general it's a good idea to reproduce the problem always under the same circumstances to be sure that other circumstances don't affect the problem, and that includes using the same game for all tests.

Koplings commented 7 years ago

actually the fireball is just my standard desktop wallpaper so it shouldn't really affect anything. its not actually any game that's running. the only game I ran was avengers under FX2. d2 is just running the scrpt and showing you what I see on my desktop before I open up FX2 and run a game. same flickering when I run the avengers game (d) unfortunately

sorry for the confusion

Koplings commented 7 years ago

is here a way for me to see what the virtal dmd displays when the dmd flickers? I notice that in the standard fx2 configuration when the dmd is on the playfield it looks fine.

freezy commented 7 years ago

You could try dmdext with VPM, setup instructions are here. Just by running VPM's setup.exe you'll be able to see both the virtual DMD and PinDMD3 displaying the same frames.

It would also be interesting to know if the same problem occurs on your PinDMD3 with VPM.

Koplings commented 7 years ago

ok ive tried but I must be doing something wrong;

not sure what im doing wrong...

not sure what im doing wrong

freezy commented 7 years ago

Try using a more recent build of VPM like this one.

You'll need to run setup and click on "Install" after copying the new VPinMame.dll to the VPM folder. If you want to keep the old one, just rename it and re-run setup after renaming back.

Koplings commented 7 years ago

ok thanks. when I run 2.9 (I was running 2.7, I had tried 2.8b,c but it gave me too many problems on sam tables) I now get a virtual dmd on the upper right but nothing on the actual dmd. the use PINDMD button is gone and instead there is a use external DMD button which I have checked. Not sure if this is right because now on all my visual pinball games I have no actual dmd at all

freezy commented 7 years ago

Yeah, "Use external DMD" replaces the "Use PinDMD". It's an abstraction layer that was added to VPM recently. Can you paste the log please?

Koplings commented 7 years ago

which log?

freezy commented 7 years ago

The log from dmdext's DmdDevice.dll

Koplings commented 7 years ago

here it is. its all I have

https://www.dropbox.com/s/l8vj7356a2vvlck/DmdDevice.log.config?dl=0

freezy commented 7 years ago

That's the config file. I need the log file. Check the link in the README that I've posted. If you're at SysWOW64 you'll need to edit the log config file to point to a different folder.

However, for your testing purpose it should be enough to just copy the DLL and the .log.config file into the VPM folder (remove it from SysWOW64), and you'll have a DmdDevice.log next time you run VPM with external DMD enabled.

Koplings commented 7 years ago

ok here it is - looks strange because I know port 3 is the correct port (one of the troubleshooting things I tried awhile back was to see if there was any sort of pindmd3 firmware update). looks like pindmd runs fine under 2.7 and 2.8 

 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.208  INFO | No altcolor folder found, ignoring palettes. 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.237  INFO | Starting VPinMAME API through vpinballx.exe. 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.237  INFO | [vpm] Open() 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.237  INFO | [vpm] Set_4_Colors_Palette() 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.237  INFO | Setting palette to 4 colors... 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.237  INFO | [vpm] PM_GameSettings(1) 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.254  INFO | Enabling game colorization 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.254  INFO | Setting game name: taf_l7 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.254  INFO | Setting color: #FFFF5820 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.350  INFO | Bit-convertion disabled. 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.350  INFO | Opening virtual DMD... 
[10] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.431 DEBUG | PinDMDv1 device not found. 
[10] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.473 DEBUG | PinDMDv2 device not found. 
[10] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.473 DEBUG | Checking port 3 for PinDMDv3... 
[10] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.473 DEBUG | Error: The given port name does not start with COM/com or does not resolve to a valid serial port.
Parameter name: portName 
[10] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.487 DEBUG | PinDMDv3 device not found. 
[10] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.508 DEBUG | PIN2DMD device not found. 
[10] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.508  INFO | Added VirtualDMD renderer. 
[10] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.508  INFO | Transformation options: Resize=Fit, HFlip=False, VFlip=False 
[10] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.522  INFO | Applying palette to render graphs. 
[10] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.522 DEBUG | Resizing virtual DMD to 128x32 
[10] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.539  INFO | Setting up 2-bit VPM Graph for 1 destination(s) 
[10] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.554  INFO | Connecting VPM 2-bit Source to Dmd (Gray2 => Rgb24) 
[10] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.592  INFO | Setting up 4-bit VPM Graph for 1 destination(s) 
[10] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.592  INFO | Connecting VPM 4-bit Source to Dmd (Gray4 => Rgb24) 
[10] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.599  INFO | Setting up RGB24-bit VPM Graph for 1 destination(s) 
[10] 2017/03/27 13:00:49.599  INFO | Connecting VPM RGB24 Source to Dmd (Rgb24 => Rgb24) 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:53.638  INFO | [vpm] Close() 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:53.638  INFO | Closing up. 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:53.638  INFO | Source for 1 renderer(s) stopped. 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:53.651  INFO | Source for 1 renderer(s) stopped. 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:53.651  INFO | Source for 1 renderer(s) stopped. 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:53.651 DEBUG | Disposing render graph. 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:53.651 DEBUG | Disposing render graph. 
 [6] 2017/03/27 13:00:53.651 DEBUG | Disposing render graph.

but something happens under 2.9

freezy commented 7 years ago

You need to put "COM3", not just "3" as the message says.

Koplings commented 7 years ago

ok great thanks. I now have for example in VP10 a virtual dmd in the top right corner and the actual dmd running trough pindmd3 just like I think it was working in 2.7. What i'm unclear of is what that means for FX2. if run both the scripts you gave me the dmd's look the same as the videos i've previously posted. am I supposed to now able to move the vritual dmd onto pindmd3 now under 2.9? everything looks kinda he same to me...

freezy commented 7 years ago

Well, the VPM exercise was mainly to be sure that it's a capturing problem and not an output problem. I suppose your PinDMD3 works well with the test you just did? No flickering?

Koplings commented 7 years ago

Yes no flickering.  Both look good

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Koplings commented 7 years ago

I actually have a second pindmd3 on order as a backup to the one I have.  I have to travel this week but will be back on the weekend.  My plan is to try it then to make sure it's not a hardware problem.  I'll let you know when I have hopefully this weekend.  Wierd isn't it?

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freezy commented 7 years ago

Yes, well we pretty much excluded a hardware problem. At this point I'll need to figure out why the capturing is only working so slowly and weirdly on your machine. I'll Google some more but it's going to be hard when I'm not able to reproduce the problem.

Koplings commented 7 years ago

Ya it's a bummer.  I mentioned it to the folks at pindmd and I sounds like they are not exactly friendly with the fx2 folks.  It's too bad.  It appears to be some an dort of fx2 interface problem.  Anyway i do appreciate your help..

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Yes, well we pretty much excluded a hardware problem. At this point I'll need to figure out why the capturing is only working so slowly and weirdly on your machine. I'll Google some more but it's going to be hard when I'm not able to reproduce the problem.

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Koplings commented 7 years ago

I don't know how these things work but right now I have the dmd for fx2 in the bottom left hand corner of my playfield and if I want I can "capture" without any flickering some sort of animation from the top right corner of the playfield using that "mirror" code you gave me and it shows fine in the pindmd3 with no flickering.   Shouldnt I somehow be able to adjust what is being capturedd and somehow capture what is on the bottom left of the playfield and run it through the dmd?  Thay way couldn't I have the virtual on the bottom left and it also running through the pindmd3?

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freezy commented 7 years ago

Yes, but what I'm doing with the current DMD window of FX2 is additionally to capturing, I'm removing the gutter between the pixels and "round" the luminosity to four shades. In order for that to work, the capturing rectangle must be pixel-perfect, which is easy with an external window, but a lot more fiddly if it's somewhere on your screen depending on your screen resolution.

I would prefer to get the current method working over adding additional parameters to the app for your use case.

Koplings commented 7 years ago

just a quick update - I received my backup pindmd3 in the mail today and just tried it out - same problem so at least as you said I can conclude its not a faulty pinDMD3...

freezy commented 7 years ago

Can you try if you have the same problem in Pinball FX3?

Koplings commented 7 years ago

Hey nice to hear from you.  I'll try again this week and let you know.  Never got it to work with fx2 but I'll try fx3 and report back.  Cheers

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joshkauf commented 6 years ago

Hey @freezy. I'm having these same issues as @koplings in pinball fx3 with pindmd v3. I've also tried both the fps and windows best appearance methods without success. Any other ideas?

joshkauf commented 6 years ago

Sorry I should've mentioned this is true both when running dmdext from commend line and launching fx3 and via pinballx launch script. I think it may be slightly worse with the second method just observationally.

Koplings commented 6 years ago

Let me know if you ever get it working and how you did it. I never got it to stop flickering.

joshkauf commented 6 years ago

@Koplings @freezy

So through a bit of trial and error, I have a method that reliably removes the flickering from FBFX3 with my pindmd3, but it is a very manual process and I have not been able to achieve it through launching PBFX3 tables via pinballx; only when launching pbfx3 directly after starting the dmdext mirroring at the command prompt first.

This video shows it in action, although, this is an extreme example, sometimes I can get it to work after control+c and rerunning dmdext with a lower fps. I have no clue why toggling it off and back on a variable amount of times achieves the desired result, but hopefully you'll see something in the log or the video that can help lead to a future patch. Please let me know if there is any other information I can provide.

ps. I'm using dmdext-69.exe which I found on the forums prior to the 1.60 release but I get the same results approximately that I show in the video using dmdext.exe. Lastly, I tried writing a bat file to go through this manual process but didn't get that to work. I don't think it is possible to emulate control+c from the bat logic.

Here is the log from the video ``` [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:02.600 DEBUG | Firmware: REV-vPin-01008 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:02.600 DEBUG | Resolution: 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:02.715 DEBUG | PIN2DMD device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:02.715 INFO | Added PinDMDv3 renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:02.753 INFO | Added VirtualDMD renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:02.753 INFO | Resizing virtual DMD to 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:02.762 INFO | Setting up Render Graph for 2 destination(s ) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:02.762 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to PinDMD v3 (Colore dGray2 => ColoredGray2) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:02.762 INFO | Capturing at 400 frames per second... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:02.783 INFO | Waiting for Pinball FX3 to spawn... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:02.808 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to Dmd (ColoredGray2 => Rgb24) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:02.811 INFO | Press CTRL+C to close. [14] 2018/03/08 20:02:08.476 DEBUG | Disposing Render Graph... [14] 2018/03/08 20:02:08.476 INFO | Source for 2 renderer(s) stopped. ^C C:\PinballX\Plugins\DMDext>dmdext-69.exe mirror -s pinballfx3 --fps 300 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.107 INFO | Launching console tool. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.137 DEBUG | PinDMDv1 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.166 DEBUG | PinDMDv2 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.166 DEBUG | Checking port COM3 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.300 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.300 DEBUG | Checking port COM1 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.377 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.377 DEBUG | Checking port COM4 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.484 INFO | Found PinDMDv3 device on COM4. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.484 DEBUG | Firmware: REV-vPin-01008 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.484 DEBUG | Resolution: 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.598 DEBUG | PIN2DMD device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.598 INFO | Added PinDMDv3 renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.635 INFO | Added VirtualDMD renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.635 INFO | Resizing virtual DMD to 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.635 INFO | Setting up Render Graph for 2 destination(s ) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.653 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to PinDMD v3 (Colore dGray2 => ColoredGray2) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.653 INFO | Capturing at 300 frames per second... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.666 INFO | Waiting for Pinball FX3 to spawn... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.690 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to Dmd (ColoredGray2 => Rgb24) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:14.690 INFO | Press CTRL+C to close. [14] 2018/03/08 20:02:22.818 DEBUG | Disposing Render Graph... [14] 2018/03/08 20:02:22.818 INFO | Source for 2 renderer(s) stopped. ^C C:\PinballX\Plugins\DMDext>dmdext-69.exe mirror -s pinballfx3 --fps 6000000000 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.428 INFO | Launching console tool. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.458 DEBUG | PinDMDv1 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.486 DEBUG | PinDMDv2 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.486 DEBUG | Checking port COM3 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.620 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.620 DEBUG | Checking port COM1 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.698 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.698 DEBUG | Checking port COM4 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.806 INFO | Found PinDMDv3 device on COM4. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.806 DEBUG | Firmware: REV-vPin-01008 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.806 DEBUG | Resolution: 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.921 DEBUG | PIN2DMD device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.921 INFO | Added PinDMDv3 renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.959 INFO | Added VirtualDMD renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.959 INFO | Resizing virtual DMD to 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.969 INFO | Setting up Render Graph for 2 destination(s ) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.969 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to PinDMD v3 (Colore dGray2 => ColoredGray2) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.969 INFO | Capturing at 6000000000 frames per second.. . [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:29.989 INFO | Waiting for Pinball FX3 to spawn... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:30.013 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to Dmd (ColoredGray2 => Rgb24) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:30.015 INFO | Press CTRL+C to close. [14] 2018/03/08 20:02:32.891 DEBUG | Disposing Render Graph... [14] 2018/03/08 20:02:32.891 INFO | Source for 2 renderer(s) stopped. ^C C:\PinballX\Plugins\DMDext>dmdext-69.exe mirror -s pinballfx3 --fps 400 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.160 INFO | Launching console tool. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.190 DEBUG | PinDMDv1 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.218 DEBUG | PinDMDv2 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.223 DEBUG | Checking port COM3 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.352 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.352 DEBUG | Checking port COM1 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.430 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.430 DEBUG | Checking port COM4 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.538 INFO | Found PinDMDv3 device on COM4. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.538 DEBUG | Firmware: REV-vPin-01008 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.538 DEBUG | Resolution: 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.653 DEBUG | PIN2DMD device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.653 INFO | Added PinDMDv3 renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.690 INFO | Added VirtualDMD renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.690 INFO | Resizing virtual DMD to 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.690 INFO | Setting up Render Graph for 2 destination(s ) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.708 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to PinDMD v3 (Colore dGray2 => ColoredGray2) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.708 INFO | Capturing at 400 frames per second... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.719 INFO | Waiting for Pinball FX3 to spawn... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.744 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to Dmd (ColoredGray2 => Rgb24) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:39.744 INFO | Press CTRL+C to close. [14] 2018/03/08 20:02:43.395 DEBUG | Disposing Render Graph... [14] 2018/03/08 20:02:43.395 INFO | Source for 2 renderer(s) stopped. ^C C:\PinballX\Plugins\DMDext>dmdext-69.exe mirror -s pinballfx3 --fps 60000000000 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:46.849 INFO | Launching console tool. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:46.880 DEBUG | PinDMDv1 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:46.907 DEBUG | PinDMDv2 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:46.912 DEBUG | Checking port COM3 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:47.041 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:47.041 DEBUG | Checking port COM1 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:47.119 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:47.119 DEBUG | Checking port COM4 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:47.227 INFO | Found PinDMDv3 device on COM4. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:47.227 DEBUG | Firmware: REV-vPin-01008 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:47.227 DEBUG | Resolution: 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:47.341 DEBUG | PIN2DMD device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:47.341 INFO | Added PinDMDv3 renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:47.379 INFO | Added VirtualDMD renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:47.379 INFO | Resizing virtual DMD to 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:47.379 INFO | Setting up Render Graph for 2 destination(s ) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:47.398 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to PinDMD v3 (Colore dGray2 => ColoredGray2) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:47.398 INFO | Capturing at 60000000000 frames per second. .. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:47.409 INFO | Waiting for Pinball FX3 to spawn... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:47.434 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to Dmd (ColoredGray2 => Rgb24) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:47.434 INFO | Press CTRL+C to close. [14] 2018/03/08 20:02:50.002 DEBUG | Disposing Render Graph... [14] 2018/03/08 20:02:50.002 INFO | Source for 2 renderer(s) stopped. ^C C:\PinballX\Plugins\DMDext>dmdext-69.exe mirror -s pinballfx3 --fps 400 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.027 INFO | Launching console tool. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.058 DEBUG | PinDMDv1 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.088 DEBUG | PinDMDv2 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.088 DEBUG | Checking port COM3 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.223 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.223 DEBUG | Checking port COM1 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.302 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.302 DEBUG | Checking port COM4 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.411 INFO | Found PinDMDv3 device on COM4. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.411 DEBUG | Firmware: REV-vPin-01008 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.411 DEBUG | Resolution: 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.527 DEBUG | PIN2DMD device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.527 INFO | Added PinDMDv3 renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.566 INFO | Added VirtualDMD renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.571 INFO | Resizing virtual DMD to 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.571 INFO | Setting up Render Graph for 2 destination(s ) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.571 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to PinDMD v3 (Colore dGray2 => ColoredGray2) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.586 INFO | Capturing at 400 frames per second... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.586 INFO | Waiting for Pinball FX3 to spawn... [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.619 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to Dmd (ColoredGray2 => Rgb24) [1] 2018/03/08 20:02:53.619 INFO | Press CTRL+C to close. [14] 2018/03/08 20:02:56.644 DEBUG | Disposing Render Graph... [14] 2018/03/08 20:02:56.647 INFO | Source for 2 renderer(s) stopped. ^C C:\PinballX\Plugins\DMDext>dmdext-69.exe mirror -s pinballfx3 --fps 300 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:01.464 INFO | Launching console tool. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:01.494 DEBUG | PinDMDv1 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:01.523 DEBUG | PinDMDv2 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:01.527 DEBUG | Checking port COM3 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:01.656 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:01.656 DEBUG | Checking port COM1 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:01.733 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:01.733 DEBUG | Checking port COM4 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:01.840 INFO | Found PinDMDv3 device on COM4. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:01.840 DEBUG | Firmware: REV-vPin-01008 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:01.840 DEBUG | Resolution: 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:01.953 DEBUG | PIN2DMD device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:01.953 INFO | Added PinDMDv3 renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:01.991 INFO | Added VirtualDMD renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:01.996 INFO | Resizing virtual DMD to 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:01.996 INFO | Setting up Render Graph for 2 destination(s ) [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:01.996 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to PinDMD v3 (Colore dGray2 => ColoredGray2) [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:02.013 INFO | Capturing at 300 frames per second... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:02.013 INFO | Waiting for Pinball FX3 to spawn... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:02.046 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to Dmd (ColoredGray2 => Rgb24) [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:02.046 INFO | Press CTRL+C to close. [14] 2018/03/08 20:03:04.394 DEBUG | Disposing Render Graph... [14] 2018/03/08 20:03:04.398 INFO | Source for 2 renderer(s) stopped. ^C C:\PinballX\Plugins\DMDext>dmdext-69.exe mirror -s pinballfx3 --fps 125 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.426 INFO | Launching console tool. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.456 DEBUG | PinDMDv1 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.485 DEBUG | PinDMDv2 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.485 DEBUG | Checking port COM3 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.618 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.618 DEBUG | Checking port COM1 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.695 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.695 DEBUG | Checking port COM4 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.803 INFO | Found PinDMDv3 device on COM4. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.803 DEBUG | Firmware: REV-vPin-01008 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.803 DEBUG | Resolution: 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.917 DEBUG | PIN2DMD device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.918 INFO | Added PinDMDv3 renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.956 INFO | Added VirtualDMD renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.956 INFO | Resizing virtual DMD to 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.966 INFO | Setting up Render Graph for 2 destination(s ) [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.966 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to PinDMD v3 (Colore dGray2 => ColoredGray2) [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.966 INFO | Capturing at 125 frames per second... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:10.985 INFO | Waiting for Pinball FX3 to spawn... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:11.010 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to Dmd (ColoredGray2 => Rgb24) [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:11.012 INFO | Press CTRL+C to close. [14] 2018/03/08 20:03:28.043 DEBUG | Disposing Render Graph... [14] 2018/03/08 20:03:28.047 INFO | Source for 2 renderer(s) stopped. ^C C:\PinballX\Plugins\DMDext>dmdext-69.exe mirror -s pinballfx3 --fps 60000000000 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:31.968 INFO | Launching console tool. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:31.998 DEBUG | PinDMDv1 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.026 DEBUG | PinDMDv2 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.026 DEBUG | Checking port COM3 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.159 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.159 DEBUG | Checking port COM1 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.236 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.236 DEBUG | Checking port COM4 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.343 INFO | Found PinDMDv3 device on COM4. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.343 DEBUG | Firmware: REV-vPin-01008 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.343 DEBUG | Resolution: 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.456 DEBUG | PIN2DMD device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.456 INFO | Added PinDMDv3 renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.494 INFO | Added VirtualDMD renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.494 INFO | Resizing virtual DMD to 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.494 INFO | Setting up Render Graph for 2 destination(s ) [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.511 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to PinDMD v3 (Colore dGray2 => ColoredGray2) [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.511 INFO | Capturing at 60000000000 frames per second. .. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.511 INFO | Waiting for Pinball FX3 to spawn... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.548 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to Dmd (ColoredGray2 => Rgb24) [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:32.548 INFO | Press CTRL+C to close. [14] 2018/03/08 20:03:34.986 DEBUG | Disposing Render Graph... [14] 2018/03/08 20:03:34.990 INFO | Source for 2 renderer(s) stopped. ^C C:\PinballX\Plugins\DMDext>dmdext-69.exe mirror -s pinballfx3 --fps 400 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:37.755 INFO | Launching console tool. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:37.786 DEBUG | PinDMDv1 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:37.814 DEBUG | PinDMDv2 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:37.814 DEBUG | Checking port COM3 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:37.947 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:37.947 DEBUG | Checking port COM1 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:38.024 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:38.024 DEBUG | Checking port COM4 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:38.131 INFO | Found PinDMDv3 device on COM4. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:38.131 DEBUG | Firmware: REV-vPin-01008 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:38.131 DEBUG | Resolution: 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:38.247 DEBUG | PIN2DMD device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:38.247 INFO | Added PinDMDv3 renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:38.285 INFO | Added VirtualDMD renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:38.285 INFO | Resizing virtual DMD to 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:38.285 INFO | Setting up Render Graph for 2 destination(s ) [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:38.303 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to PinDMD v3 (Colore dGray2 => ColoredGray2) [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:38.303 INFO | Capturing at 400 frames per second... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:38.315 INFO | Waiting for Pinball FX3 to spawn... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:38.340 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to Dmd (ColoredGray2 => Rgb24) [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:38.340 INFO | Press CTRL+C to close. [14] 2018/03/08 20:03:42.073 DEBUG | Disposing Render Graph... [14] 2018/03/08 20:03:42.073 INFO | Source for 2 renderer(s) stopped. ^C C:\PinballX\Plugins\DMDext>dmdext-69.exe mirror -s pinballfx3 --fps 60000000000 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:45.803 INFO | Launching console tool. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:45.833 DEBUG | PinDMDv1 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:45.860 DEBUG | PinDMDv2 device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:45.864 DEBUG | Checking port COM3 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:45.993 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:45.993 DEBUG | Checking port COM1 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:46.071 DEBUG | Error: The parameter is incorrect. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:46.071 DEBUG | Checking port COM4 for PinDMDv3... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:46.178 INFO | Found PinDMDv3 device on COM4. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:46.178 DEBUG | Firmware: REV-vPin-01008 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:46.178 DEBUG | Resolution: 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:46.292 DEBUG | PIN2DMD device not found. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:46.292 INFO | Added PinDMDv3 renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:46.329 INFO | Added VirtualDMD renderer. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:46.333 INFO | Resizing virtual DMD to 128x32 [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:46.333 INFO | Setting up Render Graph for 2 destination(s ) [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:46.333 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to PinDMD v3 (Colore dGray2 => ColoredGray2) [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:46.348 INFO | Capturing at 60000000000 frames per second. .. [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:46.348 INFO | Waiting for Pinball FX3 to spawn... [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:46.382 INFO | Connecting Pinball FX3 to Dmd (ColoredGray2 => Rgb24) [1] 2018/03/08 20:03:46.382 INFO | Press CTRL+C to close.```
freezy commented 6 years ago

Hmm first I thought that this is clearly a capturing problem, but then at 2:23, you stop dmdext and also the still image flickers when there's no capturing. I suppose PinDMD3 works fine in VPM?

From your video it looks like the following is happening: The monitor as well as your DMD seems to have a clock with a fixed frame rate. As soon as the reading is async with the writing, it flickers. And there seem to be blank frames in between, however I'm not sure if that's because of that huge frame rate you're providing.

What's the result with some more conventional frame rates such as 25, 30, 60, 90, 120?