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quarry #8

Closed meghalithic closed 4 years ago

meghalithic commented 5 years ago

we need to create a new term for quarry as it is different from group, formation, member, and bed. Currently it's under "eventRemarks".

jdeck88 commented 5 years ago

I'm hesitant about adding this term. fine to add terms that are already in Darwin Core, but for terms outside of Darwin Core, i think we need a really strong argument to add new data properties....

meghalithic commented 5 years ago

Can we not add a urn:? I think quarry will be common in paleo data and does mean something very different than the other geological terms.

jdeck88 commented 5 years ago

Yes, we could ref: using a urn if there is not community standard term, i just want to be conservative about the number of terms we have...

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lbrensk commented 5 years ago

I just took a look at Ray's data. Scrolling through the things in this column, it's unclear to me what is actually being described by the values in eventRemarks. Are we sure this is different from a site name? Or is it roughly equivalent to provenience in archaeology - a human-imposed breakdown of a site in order to describe where certain specimens were found within it? I think it is worth asking Ray for clarification before we add things to the template based on these values.

meghalithic commented 5 years ago

A quarry is like a pit mine or open cave, not like a city. I suppose we can use siteName for now, but a quarry is a specific thing. I'll check with Ray too.

lbrensk commented 5 years ago

Archaeologists break sites (I guess equivalent to a "city" if you want to think of it that way) into different pieces like zones, quadrants, levels, etc. (the various terms used here are endless). A quarry could be another term like this used to describe a subset of excavation within a site, or it could be talking about an actual, pre-existing quarry/mine where fossils were found. I still think it could be equivalent to a site name or a provenience description depending on Ray's response. It is not on the same level as formation or bed, which are formal geological terms for describing lithostratigraphy.

DrPronghorn commented 5 years ago

My understanding of the use of “Quarry” in vertebrate paleontology is to represent a site that is highly productive and results in several days to months of continuous activity in a single place. I would consider it a subset of “site”.

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Archaeologists break sites (I guess equivalent to a "city" if you want to think of it that way) into different pieces like zones, quadrants, levels, etc. (the various terms used here are endless). A quarry could be another term like this used to describe a subset of excavation within a site, or it could be talking about an actual, pre-existing quarry/mine where fossils were found. I still think it could be equivalent to a site name or a provenience description depending on Ray's response. I don't think it's on the same level as formation or bed, which are widely accepted terms for describing lithostratigraphy.

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meghalithic commented 4 years ago

quarry = locality