Closed fenekku closed 5 years ago
I just checked the Vancouver style, and, while our version is looking good, it's generally the Vancouver style for a print resource. For electronic resources, Vancouver style guides indicate that the URL should be included and that doi is optional.
Example from the page you linked @fenekku: Watt RG, Rouxel PL. Dental caries, sugars and food policy. Arch Dis Child [Internet]. 2012 [cited 2018 Jan 23];97(9):769-772. Available from: https://adc-bmj-com.ezproxy.library.uwa.edu.au/content/97/9/769
They also recommend to add "[Internet]" and the cited date, but I think this is not necessary. The URL is more relevant, I think. Especially if we want people to use the repository to get cited for their datasets and other objects.
Would it be too hard to add a URL for the record?
To generate citations, Invenio uses the Citation Syntax Language. We get to configure which formatting variant to use. Like I showed yesterday, there can be multiple variants for a given style (all variations are here: https://github.com/citation-style-language/schema/blob/master/csl-data.json#L12)! I hope we may find a variant that works well among those. If not, we will add our own!
Ah yes. I see that there is URL in the fields available--which is not surprising--though before you showed it to us, I had no idea there was such a thing as Citation Syntax Language. I'm familiar with the process of editing fields in a citation style within EndNote. This looks similar and flexible enough that you can add the URL to the Vancouver style.
I think the reason that I want the URL is that it aids in the "findability" part of the FAIR principles for open data. For the same reason, I don't think it would hurt to add the doi, which is optional in Vancouver, but provides one more point of findability and accessibility.
Thanks!
Oops, what I linked illustrates the different fields that can be used/combined to create a variety of formats. The big list of formats itself is here: https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/tree/a4bbb9b3b822312638d5141aa3bbfe34518112c8 . My hope is that one of them incorporates the URL for vancouver style. This way we could just re-use it.
Yeah, I get it. I took a look at the list, which happens to be truncated at 1000, so the original Vancouver style is cut off -- not sure how to see it. There is an Elsevier Vancouver style and a Nature Vancouver style. Looking more closely at both, it appears that the Nature style only includes URL for pub type of journal article. Elsevier-Vancouver includes URL for "webpage, post-weblog" types, but it does affix the doi for articles. It still seems to be limited when it comes to publication type.
I'll leave the fixing of this to you @fenekku , since you're the expert. It seems like we should be able to get at least the doi in Vancouver, which would help with discovery and access. Thanks!
hi everyone, I realize that I may be popping in the middle of the conversation, but how many citation formats do we need? What else MLA, APA, and NLM. I agree with Pamela about the doi.
what is the relative distribution of the different formatting conventions across the various journals?
thanks for indulging this question...
The formats we are supporting are APA, Chicago, Harvard, MLA and Vancouver (#52, see stage) . We talked about the other formats on Monday and decided to favour exporting to Endnote for others since there are quite a few variants to say the least. Someone else might know better about the format distribution.
Formatting distributions across the various journals is an interesting question. I will look into it and ask for input from the DIWG.
Some more context to understand the difficulty with citation formatting styles:
urological-science
for some Elsevier journals)The first 3 factors partly explain the approx. 1325 different formatting styles available here (translations are another issue but we are exempt from it)
To address these problems:
Citation formatting styles tried so far:
In italics the ones we use now (the others are the ones we tried so far)
APA: apa Chicago: chicago-fullnote-bibliography Harvard: harvard7de, elsevier-harvard MLA: modern-language-association-8th-edition, modern-language-association, modern-language-association-with-url Vancouver: vancouver, elsevier-vancouver, springer-vancouver, vancouver-author-date
Extracted from #52
Harvard Style: For Author first name, only the initial is used, not the whole name. The article title receives single quotation marks (right now there's a double quote at the end and two commas at the beginning.) Reference: http://libraryguides.vu.edu.au/harvard/sample-reference-list
MLA: Both last and first name are fully spelled out. Article title receives double quotes. Reference: https://sites.umuc.edu/library/libhow/mla_examples.cfm#academicjournals
Vancouver: Good, although the date elements at the end need spaces in between, and the extra punctuation at the end and the 1. at the beginning can be deleted. Reference: http://guides.library.uwa.edu.au/c.php?g=324981&p=2178465