game-design-driven / Create-Prepare-to-Dye

Create: Prepare to Dye an opinionated, minimalistic modpack centered around complex and interesting automation.
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Remove clay #524

Open Discord-Github-Bridge opened 7 months ago

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

i dont see a very good reason for it to be a thing. Currently being used to make orange ingot, netherrack and dirt.

the orange ingot from clay path is the least interesting path for orange by far

netherack can be made with nether wart or with healing potion. which is a little later than id like so need to think of a way to make it a little earlier maybe.

dirt has many ways to make it and the clay recipes can be easily altered to use other things without clay being missed.

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

i mean, it's possible we could lump it into orechid ignum

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

block of red dye -> netherrack?

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

the orechid ignum was kinda thought for solid -> liquid interactions though

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

Yea i wanted it for red dye to lava

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

but maybe red dye to lava and lava to netherrack

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

lava to netherrack in what flower though

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

the same one

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

ah, so you need to extract the lava quickly

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

ye

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

i think bucket-wielding deployers might be too good for that

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

thats fine, those are interesting

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

it's just betsy 2

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

we already did the bucket thing

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

and there are logistical challenges to the pump method

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

i would use a pump

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

i think pump is easier

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

i would be too worried about waste, especially if the time was like. really short

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

we can balance the time

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

having to put a full 256rpm pump on at all times might be too expensive, so maybe you could have 4 which alternate?

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

keeping your stress cpacity static while having the benefit of 4 pumps

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

i think 64 is good

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

ehh

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

that's over 3 seconds

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

more than enough for any method to do it trivially

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

its just enough that you have to think about is. not all setups run 64 at all times

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

i wonder how feasible it is to move the pumps with a gantry

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

sounds cool but why would you want that?

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

i assume they dont work while moving

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

back to the question though

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

are there any drawbacks?

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

that im not seeing maybe?

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

i just think only bucketing the liquid makes some timing challenges a bit obselete, basically

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

just need to use the bucket every 3.2 seconds

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

and making something where you need to time with pumps could be pretty interesting

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

if it could somehow cycle between 2 fluids

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

i guess there's still fluid filters

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

dont see a way to force pumps and personally i do like the deployer method, i dont think its less interersting enough to think of a way to block it.

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

yeah, i guess i see your point

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

is there any use to fluid filters in the pack right now btw

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

either way. my question is about if removing clay has drawback, more than ways of removing clay and their drawbakck, as thats something to figure out only when its agreed taht its the direction

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

i can't think of anything bad with removing clay

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

as long as there is an earlier way to get it

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

orange

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

some people use them but most if not all of the time there are better ways than filtering

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

yeah

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

spoutputs, mainly

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

thats a good thing though

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

ehh

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

autistic.sack.of.friends on Discord says

i guess

Discord-Github-Bridge commented 7 months ago

yarden.zamir on Discord says

filters are simple to think about