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Patchwerk #1320

Closed wowclassic1234 closed 1 month ago

wowclassic1234 commented 1 month ago

Description: The Patchwerk boss has an incorrect attack speed. The 1.2 sec modifier is installed on the server. The second problem is that Patchwork must be immune to the effects of Taunt.

How it should work: In wotlk classic, the boss had a base value of 0.7 sec. Near the Threat Classic addon, there is a red stripe of boss swings in the center from below. 0.7 sec, influenced by debuff 20% = 0.84. attack speed - https://youtu.be/fUh-dCZ1ZrA?t=2096 Imun taunt - https://youtu.be/fUh-dCZ1ZrA?t=2142

Database links: https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/npc=16028/patchwerk

AlucardHellsingChapel commented 1 month ago

i would say 3.3.5 is not classic so if it was a classic change it should not be applied here

wowclassic1234 commented 1 month ago

i would say 3.3.5 is not classic so if it was a classic change it should not be applied here

The same thing happened in the original WOTLK game, here is an example, here you can clearly see how every second and more often the tank falls under the automatic attack of the boss. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-0IM9UwuT8

If you want to find the video yourself, you will see that in the original Wotlk the boss was invulnerable to ridicule. But, of course, you will not do this, it is easier for you to write a comment in the topic that will question the relevance of this problem.

AlucardHellsingChapel commented 1 month ago

i would say 3.3.5 is not classic so if it was a classic change it should not be applied here

The same thing happened in the original WOTLK game, here is an example, here you can clearly see how every second and more often the tank falls under the automatic attack of the boss. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-0IM9UwuT8

If you want to find the video yourself, you will see that in the original Wotlk the boss was invulnerable to ridicule. But, of course, you will not do this, it is easier for you to write a comment in the topic that will question the relevance of this problem.

was talking about taunt immune it was immune while enraged but never heard of being immune to taunt in any other moment to taunt

draxan1 commented 1 month ago

bro why ppl like can even type here , u guys should add some iq test cus ppl cant even read , u sending some video from some bugged rusian server and from vanila wow where all boss was to hard to kill before pre nerf also there was never taunt immune on patch and his attack speed look normal

wowclassic1234 commented 1 month ago

Server flamegor official.

Dude, I completely played all the WOTLK Classic, I have a bunch of videos with proofs of how everything should work. Please do a good deed, don't write nonsense to me in my reports. If you want to make a rebuttal, throw a video proof 15 years ago 2009. At least that way you won't look stupid in my eyes.

draxan1 commented 1 month ago

image image image there is no information about u cant taunt patch , is only when he enrage

draxan1 commented 1 month ago

also on retail u do so much more threat

wowclassic1234 commented 1 month ago

You're so stupid. Where in your evidence should I see that he had no immunity? You're showing me that he used taunts. What's next? Did it work? Has the boss changed the target? Where can I see this in your evidence? I have provided you with a video of my gameplay on Wotlk classic, where the boss demonstrates immunity to ridicule. Okay, you turned on the idiot, I believed you had a negative IQ. Let me show you more, here is the first video I came across on behalf of the tank from YouTube in the original version of WOTLK 2009. The paladin uses the taunt 2 times, and in both cases the boss's immunity is triggered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGmGFKzDWAk

wowclassic1234 commented 1 month ago

also on retail u do so much more threat

I have shown you 2 video proofs Official 2009 and official 2023. If you re-start writing your nonsense from your schizophrenic head in my topic, then I strongly recommend contacting a doctor and deleting your github account. With your brand, you mislead developers and other people. People like you shouldn't be here.

draxan1 commented 1 month ago

idk maybe u right but this really nessesary to change it ? now in good guild u need to have dps trinket on prot pals , im playing bdk and i can tell u threat spells are not correct some of them give more some less threat then in orginal wow ,do u want them to rewirte all threat spell cus your patch dont have immunity to taunt ?

wowclassic1234 commented 1 month ago

If you think that some class has an incorrect Threat calculation formula, create a separate topic and provide evidence there, you do not need to write about it here. This is a completely different topic. I play as a tank warrior and I have no problems with getting a high threat volume compared to other classes.

gforghieri commented 1 month ago

Even though you are right, it ruins the fun for people because now they have to hold back the dps and cant parse as effectively...

So making things like on wotlk classic, but ruining the fun, is it worth it?

UltraNix commented 1 month ago

@gforghieri Watch once again the video that @wowclassic1234 provided - it's from 2009. Also there are some forum topics from that time .e.g https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/647073-OT-taunting

gforghieri commented 1 month ago

I know its correct, it doesnt mean people want this, that was my point. @UltraNix

gforghieri commented 1 month ago

What this effectively does is people having to hold back on DPS on the single boss where most people parse, so it ruins the fun. Why is that good?

wowclassic1234 commented 1 month ago

If you have a problem with the Threat On this boss, then what is the problem with using Misdirection and Tricks to properly distribute the threat in tanks? Or are the players on this server so incapable that they have to explain in the comments what they need to do?

wowclassic1234 commented 1 month ago

Я знаю, что это правильно, это не значит, что люди этого хотят, это была моя точка зрения. @UltraNix

if I want a loot chest of 1 bonus item per week, the developers should immediately listen to me and do it. It's cool you came up with (sarcasm) "Me or a small group of people wants it that way, so that's how it will be."Can you keep your opinion to yourself? And the developers themselves will make the game what it should be

Manpower99 commented 1 month ago

So is the taunt change removed or not? judging by the post and further evidence looked at thru WCL, patchwerk should indeed be taunt immune, just want clarification if possible ( since it was removed from discord changelog)

Manpower99 commented 1 month ago

@UltraNix something to note here that currently does not work on whitemane which if the taunt change is being kept ( as it should) is the threat generation portion of hateful strike, you can see in the video the candidates (top3 threat) of hateful strike are generating massive amount of threat which is in line with the wowhead comment, which is copied from an elitistjerks thread. https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/npc=16028/patchwerk#comments:id=552113

UltraNix commented 1 month ago

@Manpower99 Could you make a new report about it (if it's bugged on our server)?

Manpower99 commented 1 month ago

@Manpower99 Could you make a new report about it (if it's bugged on our server)?

Will do, but is the taunt change being applied or not? it has been deleted from discord changelog.

UltraNix commented 1 month ago

Will be applied.

UltraNix commented 1 month ago

Fixed.