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[PTR] XT HC health #1893

Closed NickZedd closed 1 month ago

NickZedd commented 1 month ago

It was supposed to be nerfed based on my previous report https://github.com/gamefreedomgit/Frostmourne/issues/1789 but it hasn't been implemented on the ptr. If this simply because the ptr wasn't updated, then ignore this. I'm just making sure because it is likely unkillable if it remains at 72 million hp on the live realm.

BlueBerryBird69 commented 1 month ago

We cannot know it is "unkillable", because one guild made a report.This is the first week and no one has attempted it, yet. it is called heroic for a reason, let's give everyone a chance to get more gear to progress it.the devs know what they are doing. I think the philosophy behind heroic mode is that it shouldnt be possible first week

NickZedd commented 1 month ago

@BlueBerryBird69 You forget that the only reason it has this much health is because I reported it. The devs have not designed it to be like this specifically. It was an accidental mishmash of pre-nerf with custom buffs from other private servers.

Our guild has as much dps as any other and unless someone can find a way to 3 heal it (we needed 6 to be stable), I do believe it is mathematically impossible first week at the moment based on our testing.

NickZedd commented 1 month ago

@Afgann I would add to this that the boss is extremely challenging at the moment even if my original suggestion is followed. It is probably killable with our current gear, but I would perhaps reduce the heartbreak HP buff down to 165% bonus health instead of 175%.

Whether you choose to do that or keep it higher than 175% should depend on your design philosophy and whether you want people to kill it first week of course, as blueberrybird pointed out.

BlueBerryBird69 commented 1 month ago

you miss my point.you say it is impossible now, but have you tried killing it with bis ulduar gear? maybe xt is gearcheck for heroic content and not meant to be killed first week. radeghost said multiple times that heroic content is meant to be challenging to progress.

Afgann commented 1 month ago

We've decided to revert the changes and keep it as it was before at 220% (change to 175% wasn't pushed to PTR, sorry).

jonathansbb commented 1 month ago

@Afgann might be possible for a guild to kill this in a raid with next to full bis. And there is possibly two guilds on the server who are in the category of being able, not sure if this is a good choice honestly. But same for everyone i guess.