Abandon Pet Exploit

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

Description:

This was a pre 4.2.0 bug where a hunter can Skip the dismiss pet by instead abandoning the pet in both arena, BGs, and duels to skip the process of having to dismiss before getting a different one. I thought this had been fixed earlier on but i just saw someone do it today outside stormwind. How to reproduce: tame 5 pets of any kind, rather then dismiss the pet, Abandon it and then macro a summon pet which basically means you can CC/root/use pet cooldown vs, someone for an insane amount of time without any pauses or consequences.

How it should work:

(edit)When you abandon an [alive] pet you still need to dismiss pet in order to summon a different one.

Database links: obvious enough to where i shouldnt need to go diggin for link please. but you can see on retail after first patch people started always dismissing.

[Renehadox]

No more permanent RoS and monkey stuns...

[bonfax4]

You're relying on a video with wrong info for these reports as noted by the pet swap thing and sadly this is kinda blizzlike too.

Mop high rated hunter early mop abandoning dead or close to dead pet for a quick call pet https://youtu.be/4WvZz-ihsF4?t=370. The nerf to dismiss/abandon came in late mop where you were unable to do it in arenas or rated bgs. That means doing it in duels and open world was still viable. You can even see the empty slot on the right side after he does it too.

Proof of the dismiss nerf here if needed sourced from a gm back then in MOP. https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/10859655954-dismiss-pet-nerf/

Get them to "fix" ( was not intended and fixed later on in mop i believe ) the pet hp on swap instead where it takes like 4-5 secs to recalculate hp so pets had 7k hp and were one shottable easily.

[bonfax4]

Also monkey disorients should DR with each other and with every stun in the game in general so chain cc'ing should not be possible.

[bonfax4]

@Waroxx-QA Cata video from the same hunter doing the abandon pet thing @ patch 4.3 https://youtu.be/fUpmCp7L4Fc?t=82. Pay attention to his right side toolbar and you can confirm he lost a pet. He does it again @ 1:50 and 3:50. This is blizzlike.

Edit: Another video if needed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK3OaI-Ou80. Timestamps for abandon pet swaps are @0:54 , @1:46, @6:49. He even audibly says "abandoning this pet". OP claims a "fix" came in patch 4.2 but all these videos are at least 4.3+ and you can tell because of the legendary daggers on the rogues and the overall pvp hp of players.

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

@Waroxx-QA Cata video from the same hunter doing the abandon pet thing @ patch 4.3 https://youtu.be/fUpmCp7L4Fc?t=82. Pay attention to his right side toolbar and you can confirm he lost a pet. He does it again @ 1:50 and 3:50. This is blizzlike.

Incorrect. first of all your first two links only reguard to dimiss pet. as far as your youtube link goes its a nice try but you either didnt notice and its an accident or your trying to pull a fast one, in that video you posted at 2:40 you can see him dismiss pet and you can see the monkey with the same name at start and end at beggining of video which is all one match the name of the pet is Dwdaz and near the end the same pets alive. he didnt abandon the pet, he was using roar of sacrfice and the pets actually died cuz of how much damage they took at once, its common to pop roar when you see other team burst and then he had a macro for phoenix heart which brings it back to life one time (that why pet spawnd low hp but teamates chain heal brought it back up before it ran up to priest again) it took alot of damage cuz they were trying to burst the hunter ( rogue had his burst up and priest was attacking it to ) and with burst and roar of sacrfise the damage the pet takes will be huge. as i said this was fixed in early cata. i already had conversation with other moderator reguarding how the pets dont share cooldown, and even though i played cata and im certain it was fixed before near the end, unfortunately i cant find a video later the the ones that exist, so well have to deal with that. the abandon pet method however was patched very early cata during 4.2.1. So as i said, GMs please fix this.

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

ill reply in your email aswell, he didnt abandon the pet, you can see at 2:40 he dismissed his pet and the pet at start of match is named the SAME near end of match. the pets were dieing cuz of roar of sacrifice.

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@Waroxx-QA https://github.com/Waroxx-QA Cata video from the same hunter doing the abandon pet thing @ 4.3 https://youtu.be/fUpmCp7L4Fc?t=82. Pay attention to his right side toolbar and you can confirm he lost a pet. This is blizzlike

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[bonfax4]

What are you talking about. He even says abandon pet in the video. Look at his empty call pets after he does it lol ( he has the 4 call pets on right side bar ). He does it in both early mop and late cata lol. Pay attention to his bar on right side. He also dismisses pet but he does the abandon thing. Also it's cata you can rename pets freely. Check all 3 timestamps, he finishes the fight with only 1 pet left.

[bonfax4]

There's also mentions of abandoning resummon in wod and legion in raids and dungeons to prepull myhtics with core hound lust and whatnot that I didn't even bother posting but I guess I should to prove the point that they never disabled it.

[bonfax4]

Also Phoenix heart is a ferocity pet ability in cata (in mop you can freely pick families but if you went for it you wouldn't have roar of sacrifice so he's clearly not using it either ). Monkey's are cunning, so that instantly disproves what you typed anyway.

Another thing, why is your only proof you memory of a game 11 years ago. How is that reliable when i actually provide proof. You said it yourself you could provide links so where are they ?

[bigticketx]

Nah this isn't a bug,you could've always abandon pets just to have new pet cds even in late s11 as person above said it So much so that every high rated hunter on ladder did it https://youtu.be/FY43bMNkIAc?t=427 You can see the rog killed his pet there,check action bars in the right corner,he literaly abandons the pet(pet icon disappears) https://youtu.be/FY43bMNkIAc?t=451 Few seconds later,he summons a new 1

Another example: https://youtu.be/ew7etvPDYc8?t=382 Watch enemy hunter,his pet dies,he calls a new 1 after abandoning couple of seconds later https://youtu.be/ew7etvPDYc8?t=393

Clips from the pvp tournament realm during late s11:

https://youtu.be/KIT9BFk5TR8?t=40 Hunter used roar of sac as you can see in bottom left corner,keeps moving w/o dismissing pet and calls a new 1,aka he did the abandon thing https://youtu.be/KIT9BFk5TR8?t=90 Few seconds later same thing,you can see the monkey disappear as he calls new 1 instantly w/o dismissing

[Mongo69]

Definitely not a bug,why is the status"confirmed" when the guy provided no actual evidence, lol

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

Lol this is the worst thread ever. just wated all that time watching this trash. your 2cnd example was pre 4.2.1 so thats when it worked. your tournmanet clip makes no sence cuz that was banned in LAN 3s tournaments since wrath, in the first clip you can LITERALLY see him dismissing pet in the video. and he called out " HE KILLED MY PET HE KILLED MY PET." And the reason his MACRO is named abandon pet IS PROBABLY cuz he had same macro since season 9 and didnt bother renaming it. you can see the macro highlight and he DISMISSES PET. how are yall posting this and NOT WATCHING the enitre thing you post. Dumb dumbs in this chat thats for sure. so, its confirmed cuz GMs figured out. yall are stupid. when a pet Dies you can summon a new one without dismissing it which was changed during the same patch they removed abandon pet as to not ruin hunters viability in 2s. AGAIN i ask someone POST an actualy CLIP of the hunter, NOT SAYING, NOT A MACRO, NOT ANYTHING BUT the PET BY NAME disapearing and then NOT repearing in the same match During 4.3.4. Unless we see that ITS A BUG.

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

There's also mentions of abandoning resummon in wod and legion in raids and dungeons to prepull myhtics with core hound lust and whatnot that I didn't even bother posting but I guess I should to prove the point that they never disabled it.

and as far as teh talent trees go yes that part is my mistake sure, but thats only cuz i checked and you wouldnt be able to have Pheonix heart and ROS at the same time but cunning was roar of sacrfise which you have wrong so you clearly didnt look that hard either. SO maybe it was ressed, i have no clue not a clue cuz u can clearly see the pet with the SAME name appear in the SAME match. if he abandoned it it wouldnt have come back with the same name. as you CANT have 2 pets of the EXACT same name.

[bonfax4]

Lol this is the worst thread ever. just wated all that time watching this trash. your 2cnd example was pre 4.2.1 so thats when it worked. your tournmanet clip makes no sence cuz that was banned in LAN 3s tournaments since wrath, in the first clip you can LITERALLY see him dismissing pet in the video. and he called out " HE KILLED MY PET HE KILLED MY PET." And the reason his MACRO is named abandon pet IS PROBABLY cuz he had same macro since season 9 and didnt bother renaming it. you can see the macro highlight and he DISMISSES PET. how are yall posting this and NOT WATCHING the enitre thing you post. Dumb dumbs in this chat thats for sure. so, its confirmed cuz GMs figured out. yall are stupid. when a pet Dies you can summon a new one without dismissing it which was changed during the same patch they removed abandon pet as to not ruin hunters viability in 2s. AGAIN i ask someone POST an actualy CLIP of the hunter, NOT SAYING, NOT A MACRO, NOT ANYTHING BUT the PET BY NAME disapearing and then NOT repearing in the same match During 4.3.4. Unless we see that ITS A BUG.

Just stop man the rogues they are fighting both have the legendary daggers ffs. DS came out in patch 4.3. And I never said you couldn't dismiss pet ffs why do you keep bringing it up as a gotcha. Why would you abandon pet if you don't need the immediate cc ? Ofc you would dismiss in certain scenarios. LOOK AT THE action bars and you can see the abandon, why do you insist on this. Cranes are the green colored icons on top right bar. He abandoned and it turns into a whistle after, like on the cata videos were he abandoned the monkeys.

You can't call pets after they die either, you're speaking nonsense lmao. You need to revive pet unless you abandon them that's why he said let it die on the video and did the abandon shit.

This argument is so idiotic, you can literally see the pet slot becoming empty and the insta pet summon with no dismiss on the mop video too.

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

just to be clear ( as to what i discussed in discord ) this is reffering strictly to how you can SKIP the CD by abandoning the pet NOT dismissing it. just incase thats misunderstood and in every clip you all have posted you can see pets of the same name coming back during the same match and you CAN CLEARLY SEE THEM DISMISSING THERE PET. the only time Abanding PET works is if the PET HAS DIED. if the pet IS ALIVE and you abandon it the patch 4.2.1 will make you dismiss it after still. the only way abandon pet works is if the pet is dead. or u dismiss it when its alive. if the pet is ALIVE you need to dismiss it abandoning pet WHILE ITS ALIVE DOES NOT WORK in retail after 4.2.1. this needs to be fixed end of story

[bonfax4]

Dude log cata and change pet names to the same. You can do it pet names are not unique....

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

Lol this is the worst thread ever. just wated all that time watching this trash. your 2cnd example was pre 4.2.1 so thats when it worked. your tournmanet clip makes no sence cuz that was banned in LAN 3s tournaments since wrath, in the first clip you can LITERALLY see him dismissing pet in the video. and he called out " HE KILLED MY PET HE KILLED MY PET." And the reason his MACRO is named abandon pet IS PROBABLY cuz he had same macro since season 9 and didnt bother renaming it. you can see the macro highlight and he DISMISSES PET. how are yall posting this and NOT WATCHING the enitre thing you post. Dumb dumbs in this chat thats for sure. so, its confirmed cuz GMs figured out. yall are stupid. when a pet Dies you can summon a new one without dismissing it which was changed during the same patch they removed abandon pet as to not ruin hunters viability in 2s. AGAIN i ask someone POST an actualy CLIP of the hunter, NOT SAYING, NOT A MACRO, NOT ANYTHING BUT the PET BY NAME disapearing and then NOT repearing in the same match During 4.3.4. Unless we see that ITS A BUG.

Just stop man the rogues they are fighting both have the legendary daggers ffs. DS came out in patch 4.3. And I never said you couldn't dismiss pet ffs why do you keep bringing it up as a gotcha. Why would you abandon pet if you don't need the immediate cc ? Ofc you would dismiss in certain scenarios. LOOK AT THE action bars and you can see the abandon, why do you insist on this. Cranes are the green colored icons on top right bar. He abandoned and it turns into a whistle after, like on the cata videos were he abandoned the monkeys.

You can't call pets nor dismiss them after they die either, you're speaking nonsense lmao. You need to revive pet unless you abandon them that's why he said let it die on the video and did the abandon shit.

This argument is so idiotic, you can literally see the pet slot becoming empty and the insta pet summon with no dismiss on the mop video too.

Again watch the videos YOU posted and watch them begining to end. your saying im the dumb one when you can literally see in the videos your showing me that when they were in CATA gear s11 they were dismissing pet. Your the one whos speaking nonsence.

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

you want a time stamp to your OWN vid Link???

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

Dude log cata and change pet names to the same. You can do it pet names are not unique....

and that might be true on a private server that was never true on retail even during TBC

[bonfax4]

But you can on cata. What are we arguing here ? Rewatch the videos and look at the action bars instead. Current pet he's using is highlighted in yellow and when he abandons then the highlighted pet turns into a whistle ( call pet icon when it's empty ).

Also dismiss nerf came in MOP 5.4.2 not cata and I explicitly mentioned that.Mop video i linked is pre 5.4.2. My point in linking a early mop video is to show the behaviour didn't change from 4.3 till early mop since you claim they changed it

[bonfax4]

just to be clear ( as to what i discussed in discord ) this is reffering strictly to how you can SKIP the CD by abandoning the pet NOT dismissing it. just incase thats misunderstood and in every clip you all have posted you can see pets of the same name coming back during the same match and you CAN CLEARLY SEE THEM DISMISSING THERE PET. the only time Abanding PET works is if the PET HAS DIED. if the pet IS ALIVE and you abandon it the patch 4.2.1 will make you dismiss it after still. the only way abandon pet works is if the pet is dead. or u dismiss it when its alive. if the pet is ALIVE you need to dismiss it abandoning pet WHILE ITS ALIVE DOES NOT WORK in retail after 4.2.1. this needs to be fixed end of story

Dude hunter on the videos I linked did it while the pet was alive and they came back with fresh cds... It works both ways alive or dead. If you call the same pet cds resume in case you didn't know that

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

just to be clear ( as to what i discussed in discord ) this is reffering strictly to how you can SKIP the CD by abandoning the pet NOT dismissing it. just incase thats misunderstood and in every clip you all have posted you can see pets of the same name coming back during the same match and you CAN CLEARLY SEE THEM DISMISSING THERE PET. the only time Abanding PET works is if the PET HAS DIED. if the pet IS ALIVE and you abandon it the patch 4.2.1 will make you dismiss it after still. the only way abandon pet works is if the pet is dead. or u dismiss it when its alive. if the pet is ALIVE you need to dismiss it abandoning pet WHILE ITS ALIVE DOES NOT WORK in retail after 4.2.1. this needs to be fixed end of story

Dude hunter on the videos I linked did it while the pet was alive and they came back with fresh cds... It works both ways alive or dead. If you call the same pet cds resume in case you didn't know that

If thats true why would he dismiss an alive pet. it looks more like the pet died. theres literally no reason why he would dismiss it if he could abandon it. only in one of those vids did u see him abandon it and it was s9

[bonfax4]

Abandon makes you lose a pet permenantly... They would have to restock and relevel pets. Last case scenario type of thing. Did you check both the 4.3 videos I linked at all at the time stamps I told you to ? He does it every single time while the pet is alive. MOP one is debatable because the pet was close to dead but doesn't matter. 4.3 is S11 because I see you on discord asking for s11 vids and both videos I linked are s11

[bonfax4]

Edit: Another video if needed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK3OaI-Ou80. Timestamps for abandon pet swaps are @0:54 , @1:46, @6:49.

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

Abandon makes you lose a pet permenantly... They would have to restock and relevel pets. Last case scenario type of thing. Did you check both the 4.3 videos I linked at all at the time stamps I told you to ? He does it every single time while the pet is alive. MOP one is debatable because the pet was close to dead but doesn't matter. 4.3 is S11 because I see you on discord asking for s11 vids and both videos I linked are s11

in mop it was patched to where the global shared CD anyways, we just discussed it in pvp discord. were unsure weather its doable in cata, the problem is no u dont have to relevel the pet. you gotta look more into it. i could be wrong im all on board with that its just i dont see any vids of people doing it. but again when you ABANDON a pet on retail u cant call it back if its same name cuz that means it was same pet. as on retail you couldnt have more then one pet of same name on same server.

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

Edit: Another video if needed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK3OaI-Ou80. Timestamps for abandon pet swaps are @0:54 , @1:46, @6:49.

yes i saw them already, at 0:54 the name of the pet he abandoned is named Wdawz at 4:10 he has the SAME monkey by name. theres no way he coulda of abandoned it and then resummoned the monkey with the SAME name. unless there was some type of script that let you cheat around that. which is why its a discussion i guess. ima stop being rude, theres no reason to insult eachother, but please look at the video

[bonfax4]

Why do you keep bringing pet names up ? renames are free after you tame a pet ( 1st rename is ). Pet names mean nothing but you keep bringing it up. I can tame 5 pets and give them the same name. Pets are not tied to names.

You are intentionally ignoring everything else it seems.

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

In cata retail yes they are. you cant have multiple pets of same name. he abandoned a pet then brought it back with same name its the same pet.

[bonfax4]

It doesn't work like that abandon pet means you lose it permanently. And bo pet names are not unique stop it. Show proof of that

[bonfax4]

Almost feel like you're intentionally disregarding shit because you want this fixed either way or another even with clear evidence.

[Renehadox]

Holy shit guys 15 emails on my phone received, whats up with the fight? at 0:54 his pet is gone then then at 0:57 is back again, how ? I mean the action bars were gone and then they were back.

[bonfax4]

Abandon pet script but OP refuses to acknowledge it :)

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

RIght cuz i said it works when its dead. im saying you cant have more then one pet of same name. on retail ever since TBC all the way till present day if you try to name more then one pet the same name it will say ..( name taken )

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

Abandon pet script but OP refuses to acknowledge it :)

Holy shit guys 15 emails on my phone received, whats up with the fight? at 0:54 his pet is gone then then at 0:57 is back again, how ? I mean the action bars were gone and then they were back.

Rene i think u misunderstood the post. he dismissed his pet and then brought a different one, He didnt ABANDON it. the only clip he posted where he ABANDONED it was a pre 4.2.1. abandon and dismiss arent the same thing you can abandon a dead pet or dismiss a dead or alive one.

[bonfax4]

Again this dude keeps saying it's pre 4.2.1 and rogue has leggo daggers lmao

[bonfax4]

4.2 is Firelands patch

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

Again this dude keeps saying it's pre 4.2.1 and rogue has legged daggers lmao

I only reffered to one of the links u posted not all of them. im trying to be respectful and not rude. in the clips where he had legendary daggers yes he abadonded a DEAD pet and also dismissed an alive one.

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

When u cast roar of sacrifise the pet takes a load of damage if there bursting u, the guy in the vid says " my pet died " this post is reffering to when you abandon an ALIVE pet, and on retail you cant have more then one pet of same name. this has nothing to do with dismiss or abandoning a dead one. during the vids where u can clearly see he has legendary dagger he both dismissed his pet and it died during the game. thats what this is about. im asking for someone to show me a clip where someone Abandons an alive pet and rather then having to dismiss, or abandon a dead one, you abandon an alive pet then a new one comes. thats what were reffering to. okay.

[Renehadox]

So whats the exploint on whitemane then?

Sorry cba reading the entire thread with 50 comments.

[bonfax4]

Latest video i told you to check is on the 3 timestamps pet is alive. Same video rogue has legendary daggers. Even in the 1st video rogue also has leggo daggers. Both are 4.3+. Check the dates of the videos too while you're at it. Both posted on 2012.

[bonfax4]

4.3.0 release date is November 29, 2011

[Renehadox]

Abandon pet script but OP refuses to acknowledge it :)

Holy shit guys 15 emails on my phone received, whats up with the fight? at 0:54 his pet is gone then then at 0:57 is back again, how ? I mean the action bars were gone and then they were back.

Rene i think u misunderstood the post. he dismissed his pet and then brought a different one, He didnt ABANDON it. the only clip he posted where he ABANDONED it was a pre 4.2.1. abandon and dismiss arent the same thing you can abandon a dead pet or dismiss a dead or alive one.

What?

He didn't dismiss his pet, i didnt see a cast bar from it, actions bars were gone and new bars came after with a monkey stun that was not on cd.

[bonfax4]

Abandon pet script but OP refuses to acknowledge it :)

Holy shit guys 15 emails on my phone received, whats up with the fight? at 0:54 his pet is gone then then at 0:57 is back again, how ? I mean the action bars were gone and then they were back.

Rene i think u misunderstood the post. he dismissed his pet and then brought a different one, He didnt ABANDON it. the only clip he posted where he ABANDONED it was a pre 4.2.1. abandon and dismiss arent the same thing you can abandon a dead pet or dismiss a dead or alive one.

What?

He didn't dismiss his pet, i didnt see a cast bar from it, actions bars were gone and new bars came after.

Not only that if you check his call pet macros top right one monkey icon disappears everytime he does it. Both videos he finishes the fights with one pet left

[Renehadox]

So whats the exploint on whitemane then?

Sorry cba reading the entire thread with 50 comments.

[bonfax4]

His only comeback to that is pet names tho. There's no exploit, this is blizzlike.

[Waroxx-QA]

bonfax4

After deep research, for a case that in my opinion lacked evidence in the web, because it did not create controversy at that time, the lack of topics about it on different forums that date from the time, I 've managed to find the macro from the archives of an old website that was leaking this kind of stuff. it's definitely blizzlike.

Case closed.

[Renehadox]

So fix is not coming?

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

bonfax4

After deep research, for a case that in my opinion lacked evidence in the web, because it did not create controversy at that time, the lack of topics about it on different forums that date from the time, I 've managed to find the macro from the archives of an old website that was leaking this kind of stuff. it's definitely blizzlike.

Case closed.

Please send me the link so i can see it. :/ i was totally open to being wrong its just people were providng crap evidence though.

[Hoofjob-Instinctz]

by the way the macros worked in early cata, im aware of that, i just wanted to see proof it worked post 4.2.1