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Admin tool to convert "order" questions to "ordering" questions in Moodle >= 2.3
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What am I doing wrong? #2

Open dhyre opened 7 years ago

dhyre commented 7 years ago

Hello,

I have a brand new 3.2 and have imported several SGU courses which have the drag and drop ordering question type. I have installed this plugin, but nothing under "Development" is related to the conversion of question types. I can't even install the old drag and drop in Moodle. It just gets hung up. I have attached a post-installation shot of my menu.

Thanks as always for your help and hard work,

Dave unnamed

gbateson commented 7 years ago

Once installed, this plugins is available at the following position in the Moodle Administration block:

Site administration -> Plugins ->Admin tools -> Migrate Ordering questions

Do you see it there?

dhyre commented 7 years ago

Hello,

You and the MAJ people are really putting in a lot of work. I always appreciate your help.

I wish I could say yes, it's there, but no.

Am I doing something wrong? Half of Don's courses won't work on sites newer than 2.6.

As for bringing back the old plugins:

It must be a pain keeping that Ajax updated, but that was the thing that attracted me to Moodle in the first place. Is there any way it can be upgrade for 3.2? I think the biggest issue was that they generally didn't fit cellphones.

I think newer cellphones are able to pinch resize anything, ot at least my Huawei Android has that no-pinch override setting - if that was the main issue.

I would do it myself, but I don't know .php or ajax. Maybe I could learn just the drag-and-drop ones and nothing else. Please let me know if you have any ideas on that. From what remember from javascript, just recognizing what was inside was half the battle.

Those drop-down box things are really boring even Glexa has us beat now. They have a matching program that allows the learners to draw lines left to right. There must be something we can do. I'm willing to help if anything is possible.

For now though, if I can convert those ordering ones en-mass I would at least able to get my courses to work.

Kind Regards,

David

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Gordon Bateson notifications@github.com wrote:

Once installed, this plugins is available at the following position in the Moodle Administration block:

Site administration -> Plugins ->Admin tools -> Migrate Ordering questions

Do you see it there?

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gbateson commented 7 years ago

It seems the plugin is not yet installed on your site.

When it is installed, it will appear in the Site administration menu, as I indicated earlier.

It looks like you are using the Boost theme, so I have attached a screen-snip of what you should see.

moodle 32 boost admin tools

gbateson commented 7 years ago

I have confirmed that on your site the plugin is located in the right place. I am fairly confident that if you login as admin and go through the installation procedure, it will appear in the Site admin menu.

I notice that the readme.txt for this plugin give the WRONG location for this tool. The readme.txt file says the tool will be found in the "Development" section of the Site admininstation menu. However, this is NOT CORRECT.

The correct location for this plugin in the navigation menu is what i explained earlier, namely:

Site administration -> Plugins ->Admin tools -> Migrate Ordering questions

Sorry for any confusion that the old instructions in the readme.txt file may have caused. I will update the instructions in due cause.

Thanks for bringing this issue to my attention.

dhyre commented 7 years ago

Thanks so much. That sounds easy. I've imported Don's courses en-mass because it's easier for me to fix it than for us to ask IT staff.

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Gordon Bateson notifications@github.com wrote:

I have confirmed that on your site the plugin is located in the right place. I am fairly confident that if you login as admin and go through the installation procedure, it will appear in the Site admin menu.

I notice that the readme.txt for this plugin give the WRONG location for this tool. The readme.txt file says the tool will be found in the "Development" section of the Site admininstation menu. However, this is NOT CORRECT.

The correct location for this plugin in the navigation menu is what i explained earlier, namely:

Site administration -> Plugins ->Admin tools -> Migrate Ordering questions

Sorry for any confusion that the old instructions in the readme.txt file may have caused. I will update the instructions in due cause.

Thanks for bringing this issue to my attention.

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dhyre commented 7 years ago

Site administration -> Plugins ->Admin tools -> Migrate Ordering questions

Thanks for the additional clarification!

gbateson commented 7 years ago

I have updated the readme.txt file to give the correct location of this plugin in the Site administration menu.

dhyre commented 7 years ago

Uh-oh. There's an even bigger problem. The OLD plugin has to also be installed and 3.2 won't take it. I guess I could edit the database to accept it, but I hear that this method is not recommended. 1291 mar 03 10 42

dhyre commented 7 years ago

I would estimate that 90 percent of the SGU courses are dependent upon the old dd plugins.

dhyre commented 7 years ago

They really are cool. I wish we could somehow get them back. Impossible?

dhyre commented 7 years ago

New problem. The old plugin doesn't install to the new OS. Both have to be installed. I guess there's no way we can update the dd's?

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I have updated the readme.txt file to give the correct location of this plugin in the Site administration menu.

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gbateson commented 7 years ago

I'll take a look later, but I am on an international trip just now, so I'm afraid I cannot investigate further at this point.

dhyre commented 7 years ago

Thanks, please let me know if there's anything I can do. I should be able to learn how to manage one plugin set, unless there are circumstances unknown to me.

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I'll take a look later, but I am on an international trip just now, so I'm afraid I cannot investigate further at this point.

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dhyre commented 7 years ago

Could the ajax header be the root of all of our troubles? https://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=322543

gbateson commented 7 years ago

As far as I can determine the "qtype_order" question type available from github.com DOES work on all versions of Moodle 2.x and 3.x

Note, that the above Github repository has different "branches" for different versions:

In your case David, you need the MDL_23 branch. This is the default branch for this plugin You can get that via "git" by issuing the following command in your SSH terminal window:

Alternatively you can download the zip file of the MDL_23 branch from the following location:

dhyre commented 7 years ago

Ah, Maybe I haven't been putting the path on the end! Do you know if I should be doing that with all new git clones? The plugins do seem to be working, but I'd like to have them all in the right places (ideally).

On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Gordon Bateson notifications@github.com wrote:

As far as I can determine the "qtype_order" question type available from github.com DOES work on all versions of Moodle 2.x and 3.x

Note, that the above Github repository has different "branches" for different versions:

  • MASTER branch: Moodle 2.6 and later
  • MDL_24 branch: Moodle 2.4 and 2.5
  • MDL_21 branch: Moodle 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3
  • MDL_20 branch: Moodle 2.0
  • MDL_19 branch: Moodle 1.9 (and possibly earlier versions of Moodle)

In your case David, you need the MASTER branch. You can get that via "git" by issuing the following command in your SSH terminal window:

Alternatively you can download the zip file of the MASTER branch from the following location:

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dhyre commented 7 years ago

That installed well, but the quizzes from SGU still often have question marks. Do you know if that means I need a different and older drag and drop, drag gap fill and/ or drag matching?

I think the SGU courses were made with older unique plugins, but not sure. I thought they were all yours.

Many Thanks for Your Help Here.

I think I'm close. Maybe I just need to reinstall the courses so the quizzes will work. I've saved them all so that will be easy. Could the problem be that they were restored in absence of the plugins? Sorry to fill up your inbox. Please let me know if I can ever be of any help to you. One day, I'll make some reader quizzes. Please tell me if there are any you want and send me the criteria.

Dave

On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Dave Hyre hyredave@gmail.com wrote:

Ah, Maybe I haven't been putting the path on the end! Do you know if I should be doing that with all new git clones? The plugins do seem to be working, but I'd like to have them all in the right places (ideally).

On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Gordon Bateson notifications@github.com wrote:

As far as I can determine the "qtype_order" question type available from github.com DOES work on all versions of Moodle 2.x and 3.x

Note, that the above Github repository has different "branches" for different versions:

  • MASTER branch: Moodle 2.6 and later
  • MDL_24 branch: Moodle 2.4 and 2.5
  • MDL_21 branch: Moodle 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3
  • MDL_20 branch: Moodle 2.0
  • MDL_19 branch: Moodle 1.9 (and possibly earlier versions of Moodle)

In your case David, you need the MASTER branch. You can get that via "git" by issuing the following command in your SSH terminal window:

Alternatively you can download the zip file of the MASTER branch from the following location:

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