Closed msinger closed 1 month ago
The undriven bits are always high due to the Game Boy chip's internal pull-up resistors on the data I/Os.
This probably wouldn't be exactly right: this is the cartridge area, which isn't subject to strictly always having high bits for open bus like internal I/O. Rather it would just be some bitwise OR against the bits last on the cartridge bus, and possibly randomly having some other bits be high regardless (although if execution was in say HRAM, this doesn't really apply since whatever is on the cartridge bus would have floated up to 0xFF by now).
@CasualPokePlayer are you sure? I haven't tested it on the real Game Boy hardware recently. I would need to do some cartridge swapping there, and I'm not sure if the level shifters on an Everdrive cartridge would override the pull-ups. I used my own hardware instead of a Game Boy. My board has level shifters with hold-function, so they behave like you describe, I read the value that was on the bus previously. But I'm pretty sure that on the real Game Boy with an original cartridge, you read 0xFF when the bus is undriven. When reading, the Game Boy chip enables pull-up resistors on the I/O pads. Those pull up the external data bus. They are there, so that the data lines are never really floating. The internal bus doesn't have pull-ups. The internal bus uses capacitive precharging instead. Or do you mean that the data lines from the flash are only connected to the MBC6, and not to the cartridge connector? In that case I don't know if the MBC6 has pull-ups. I don't have a schematic of this cartridge. Anyway, I just wrote this in the commit message, it isn't in the markdown file.
An Everdrive would completely throw off any results here: that is known to somehow "force" the bus value to stay the same rather than turn to 0xFF.
On real GameBoy hardware, it is generally very much ""expected"" for the last value to get read off the bus: a few games rely on such behavior, crashing if 0xFF is read. The value on the bus does eventually get pulled up to 0xFF, but this happens generally in around 1 single speed m-cycle, so any delay will likely just result in 0xFF being read off the bus (e.g. a pop in open bus would have 0xFF in the second read byte, typically). This can vary heavily since this is non-deterministic behavior (hence "randomly some bits get pulled up to 1 regardless"): perhaps the MBC6 does something to throw this out completely too, although it's probably a safe assumption it behaves similarly to other cartridges.
Ah, okay. Maybe the pull-ups are too weak, so that it takes a moment. Interesting, I didn't know that some games rely on that. Do they do this for copy protection?
Ah, no, I just read the link. They are bugged. :)
While testing something else on the Nintendo Power flash cartridge, I accidentally found out that the /WP pin of the flash doesn't protect the whole flash. I forgot to disable the protection and was able to write sectors 1-7 anyway. Then I also tested Net de Get and the flash has the same /WP pin. It behaves identical, so I did some more tests to verify and fixed some stuff in the MBC6 description: