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Many more Pandulus occurrence records on Artskart than passed on to GBIF? #149

Open dagendresen opened 1 year ago

dagendresen commented 1 year ago

There are many more Pandulus occurrence records on Artskart than in the GBIF portal...?

rukayaj commented 1 year ago

Most (13542) of them are from "tnd hos Havforskningsinstituttet" - I can't find any reference to that but I guess it's the IMR datasets which are unpublished? Possibly http://gbif.imr.no/ipt/resource?r=imr ? @knutanders perhaps you can shed some light?

rukayaj commented 1 year ago

Knut will be able to look at this once he's back from summer vacation.

rukayaj commented 9 months ago

Knut to follow up on this, and the IMR IPT issue.

knutanders commented 9 months ago

Artskart has more Pandalus records for Norway than GBIF because IMR has datasets that are not registered to GBIF - as @rukayaj suggested in a previous comment. I've had a meeting with IMR regarding the issue, and they have confirmed that they will register the datasets.

ymgan commented 9 months ago

Hey,

I think the issue is that the IMR datasets are shared with EMODnet which republishes the dataset through Eurobis IPT (https://ipt.vliz.be/eurobis/?search=imr&sort=name&order=asc). The republished dataset from Eurobis goes to EMODnet and OBIS, but not GBIF.

For example

IMR IPT: https://gbif.imr.no/ipt/resource?r=imr_capelin_larvae_monitoring Eurobis IPT: https://ipt.vliz.be/eurobis/resource?r=capelin_larvae

The copy from Eurobis IPT has External data:

info link
Online dataset https://www.emodnet-biology.eu/portal/index.php?dasid=4442
Online dataset https://www.eurobis.org/toolbox/en/download/occurrence/dataset/4442
IPT http://gbif.imr.no/ipt/resource.do?r=imr_capelin_larvae_monitoring
Online dataset https://obis.org/dataset/f2e8ea1b-2f0c-4f0a-9217-81184057b0e0
Metadata https://www.eurobis.org//imis?dasid=4442

Is it possible to use OBIS Network from the original endpoint (IMR) to get the dataset into OBIS and EMODnet instead of Eurobis republishing the dataset? @pieterprovoost @rubenpp7

Please tell me if I am wrong :D Thanks a lot!!

rubenpp7 commented 7 months ago

Hi @ymgan

it is possible indeed and it should be the goal. I am working on a procedure for EurOBIS to redefine our dataflow since we have the same issue with a number of other datasets.

Its implementation has to be done carefully to ensure there is no data loss since in some cases the 2 versions of the dataset differ considerably

Cheers!

kkongshavn commented 5 months ago

Hi, thank you for your insights! I was wondering if there has been any further development on this?