Closed dagendresen closed 1 year ago
So we plan to add a Norwegian Data Publishers entity to Wikidata, and then link each of these data publishers https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KuAn3N87gMnxz168DSGxbymme6FmV9xOTk952UdqSYI/edit#gid=1869195682 to it, and also to link it the other way from the main page to the individual publishers.
I have started a Wikidata catalog of Norwegian data publishers here https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q106706430
Should we transform the registration for the university museums to a registration representing their universities? -- I vote yes!!
NTNU Science Museum --> Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU)
UiA KMN --> University of Agder (UiA)
UiB University Museum --> University of Bergen (UiB) UiB Department of Biology --> UiB (merge)
UiO Natural History Museum --> University of Oslo (UiO) UiO Department of biosciences --> UiO (merge) UiO Department of Geosciences --> UiO (merge)
UiS Museum of Archeology --> University of Stavanger (UiS)
UiT College of Fishery --> UiT (which is represented by the UiT Museum) (merge)
Yes, that makes sense! I don't think there is any merge functionality in the registry, so we probably have to re-assign all the datasets with UiO Department of biosciences and UiO Department of Geosciences to the new University of Oslo (UiO). And then delete UiO Department of biosciences and UiO Department of Geosciences.
Agree (that was what I meant) - do you want to try starting to move the UiO Bio and UiO Geo datasets? I can rename the registry entry for UiO NHM.
Sure, I'm going to walk down to the office in a few minutes for my Medarbeidersamtale, I will do it when I get back.
No immediate hurry!! But cool to get this clean-up started. Best of luck with the staff conversation :-)
I have updated all institutions in the registry. We can proceed to move the datasets -- and finally, deprecate the then obsolete sub-units.
Ok great, I've merged them.
The ones changed for UiO Department of Geosciences (e0d2ac6c-6f05-474d-bd50-1c5ab6614498): https://www.gbif.org/dataset/66c9903c-5bb2-4b10-a3ac-33c505623f66 https://www.gbif.org/dataset/b9f90d91-53c5-4c0f-b950-5678a7ecd571 https://www.gbif.org/dataset/2372eba1-a784-48a3-980e-ae7798f12c7d https://www.gbif.org/dataset/101f5645-c5c0-4981-a1a2-3d2bb1853edf https://www.gbif.org/dataset/5a8d4f46-ff7c-442b-a8da-1e312cbaafb5 https://www.gbif.org/dataset/27707a6d-3320-4e85-be33-aafaf7f321f3 https://www.gbif.org/dataset/1033dac1-8ed3-467d-a097-52d0a4b7dc26 https://www.gbif.org/dataset/4f659137-54b4-4243-8bcb-5b2f534481c8
The ones changed for UiO Department of biosciences (6c1dec01-8c82-4341-8584-26c6576d3b69): https://www.gbif.org/dataset/88d6237c-fbce-4135-b509-0aeed1e4222e
The ones changed for UiB University Museum (f92082e0-fb4f-4881-b3af-b3048610909a): https://www.gbif.org/dataset/d750e2d1-89cf-4d8c-a434-26441e5e7629 https://www.gbif.org/dataset/37dddcd2-ed51-4ada-86df-37449162f404 https://www.gbif.org/dataset/fe7fa086-1b67-4c90-abe1-123048ead530 https://www.gbif.org/dataset/ad739ed0-ab30-4ca1-83ae-7c6ce228cafb
I also changed them on the IPT (i.e. manually editing resource.xml and restarting the server as Marie suggested last time we did this).
Maybe we want to check with the Secretariate if it is possible to transfer the data citations to the combined UiO and UiB entries... (if they "hang on" the dataset, maybe they will already move automatically in the upcoming indexing cycles...)
UiO -- https://www.gbif.org/publisher/f314b0b0-e3dc-11d9-8d81-b8a03c50a862
UiO Bio -- https://www.gbif.org/publisher/6c1dec01-8c82-4341-8584-26c6576d3b69 UiO Geo -- https://www.gbif.org/publisher/e0d2ac6c-6f05-474d-bd50-1c5ab6614498
I sent an email yesterday and didn't get a reply, but it looks like the citations have moved over automatically now anyway.
I seem to recall that the "UiO NHMO" publisher now "UiO" had 67 citations also before moving the UiO Bio and UiO Geo datasets... thus the citations have not yet moved but only been deleted from the now obsolete UiO Bio and UiO Geo publisher entries...?
Hasn't it got 643 citations now? I thought yesterday it had 630ish, but I might be wrong. I'll send a follow up email.
Sorry, you are right -- looked at datasets! But I seem to recall the number of datasets was 67, eg. briefly looking I do not find the Foraminiferida dataset by Elisabeth Alva at UiO Geo...
OK!, here is (one of them?) https://doi.org/10.15468/fnq9yx
Here's a list of them: The ones changed for UiO Department of Geosciences (e0d2ac6c-6f05-474d-bd50-1c5ab6614498): https://www.gbif.org/dataset/66c9903c-5bb2-4b10-a3ac-33c505623f66 https://www.gbif.org/dataset/b9f90d91-53c5-4c0f-b950-5678a7ecd571 https://www.gbif.org/dataset/2372eba1-a784-48a3-980e-ae7798f12c7d https://www.gbif.org/dataset/101f5645-c5c0-4981-a1a2-3d2bb1853edf https://www.gbif.org/dataset/5a8d4f46-ff7c-442b-a8da-1e312cbaafb5 https://www.gbif.org/dataset/27707a6d-3320-4e85-be33-aafaf7f321f3 https://www.gbif.org/dataset/1033dac1-8ed3-467d-a097-52d0a4b7dc26 https://www.gbif.org/dataset/4f659137-54b4-4243-8bcb-5b2f534481c8
The ones changed for UiO Department of biosciences (6c1dec01-8c82-4341-8584-26c6576d3b69): https://www.gbif.org/dataset/88d6237c-fbce-4135-b509-0aeed1e4222e
The ones changed for UiB University Museum (f92082e0-fb4f-4881-b3af-b3048610909a): https://www.gbif.org/dataset/d750e2d1-89cf-4d8c-a434-26441e5e7629 https://www.gbif.org/dataset/37dddcd2-ed51-4ada-86df-37449162f404 https://www.gbif.org/dataset/fe7fa086-1b67-4c90-abe1-123048ead530 https://www.gbif.org/dataset/ad739ed0-ab30-4ca1-83ae-7c6ce228cafb
I checked 3 of them in the UiO publisher datasets list and they seem to be there, so I think it's ok. I am worried that the citations might not have moved though.
Tim replied: Citations are tracked on a dataset level, so they do indeed move automatically when the dataset changes publisher. The publisher pages just show the aggregate count of dataset citations. It can take a little time for all the various systems to reach consistency, which is why there can be some minutes before the citations swapped over on the website.
Please be aware that this is not the case if a dataset is split or replaced though. Depending on what is changing, it may be possible to manually move citations but that can be a tedious task (they may even need verified on a case by case basis) so not something we can automate.
Apropos - Looking for the datasets the GBIF portal dataset listing is rather useless (no alphabetical list or no list view at all) while your dataset listing at GBIF.no is much more useful :-)
(Similar to the feature request for dataset listing for Living Norway in the Hosted Portal)
Looks like the dataset move worked spotlessly. I think this becomes much cleaner this way!
A next cool thing might be (later) if we manage to link some metadata to be curated in Wikidata/ROR/Bionomia(?)/etc to be imported into the EML for datasets on the IPT... :-) To dereference identifiers and enrich "missing" metadata.
Should we do the dataset for the UiT Fishery college also?
Current publisher: https://www.gbif.org/publisher/8cf21d03-4799-4fd5-99a4-b9836de4ec37 Dataset https://www.gbif.org/dataset/4894f2f8-74b5-403e-bd8d-6fe5123a3f71
Move to new publisher UiT (?): https://www.gbif.org/publisher/689b40c4-ff31-4cd0-83a5-a7a828f1cd92
See the home page for UiT fishery college. https://uit.no/enhet/nfh
It looks quite clear-cut merged with UiT complete. So I think we can simply complete the merge on the GBIF registry as well. (We might maybe confirm with Heini and Andreas..., but I think it would be no issue to just do it).
Ok I have changed it, I guess it might take a little while to show up.
I notice that this issue has shifted topic from the Wikidata QID for institutions -- to this clean-up of (duplicate) publisher registrations. Maybe create a new issue for the Wikidata and ROR identifiers, and close this one -- after we (1) verify that the merge in the GBIF registry remains without issues; and (2) delete or flag the now-obsolete data publisher entries from the GBIF registry in contact with the secretariat.
I have added comments such as this one on the now-obsolete GBIF publishers in the Registry: https://registry.gbif.org/organization/8cf21d03-4799-4fd5-99a4-b9836de4ec37/comment
Maybe document somewhere the practice of aiming for Norwegian GBIF data publishers to be institutions/entities that are eligible for or have ROR and/or Grid institution identifiers.
See also https://github.com/gbif/registry/issues/285 and https://github.com/gbif/registry/issues/282 and https://github.com/gbif/registry/issues/294
Some links from a group who covered collection + institution representation in wikidata (from the BiCiKL hackathon):
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1UQxZsbjnv-F_fO9VOwE4pTqFkVuYvgY1FunvBDzngOY/edit?usp=sharing
DiSSCo &Cetaf institutions with their GBIF ID and ROR ID (which also has a wikidata link): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15QLUKOCQWobvyFrduBZk75xkjowWWd0LfkEC7Zyjg0k/edit
All DiSSCo institutions are getting a ROR ID, this is in progress: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k6cTdaQ3Cujr2jh7-c3pns4K9Y9faPAdxniJrnZ7pXM
Mathias Dillen to Everyone (11:09): P4090 seems to be used exclusively for institutionCode/collectionCode/acronym.
This is a bit strange, I noted here that I made the change but it obviously must not have registered as UiT Fishery college is still in grscicoll... Unless I just made it in the gbif data publishers and not on grscicoll as well.
Now, somehow, we have three University of Oslo institutions: https://www.gbif.org/grscicoll/institution/2e961f1c-399e-4aab-92ea-0657722f8dcd and https://www.gbif.org/grscicoll/institution/390f06b3-a81e-41b9-972e-e790e0edfe04 and also NHMO https://www.gbif.org/grscicoll/institution/ffe44856-4ea4-4443-ab9f-4b3c7581b2bb
I think it's coming from the data in the datasets themselves, so I will go through and correct them, and then merge these institutions again.
We are back to 1 institute for UiO:
I think that the ambition of GRSciColl to synchronize with eg. Index Herbarium is causing problematic issues?
If you look at the UiO GRSciColl entry - this is indicated with the "Master record" at IH https://registry.gbif.org/institution/390f06b3-a81e-41b9-972e-e790e0edfe04 --> http://sweetgum.nybg.org/science/ih/herbarium-details/?irn=124083
The IH code "O" should maybe be maintained as at least a historic code and preferably remain "reserved" and redirect to UiO...! And maybe even remain a valid dwc:institutionCode value???
https://registry.gbif.org/institution/search?code=O --> no hits
I suspect that IH might override metadata added for UiO...??? Which might be a worrisome "bug"/"feature" with GRSciColl...???
There is a worrisome mixture of understanding of WHAT is the nature of the thing classified as "Institution" in GRSciColl. The "O" in IH represents (only) the botanical collections at UiO (in other words only the UiO herbarium) -- and could thus be argued to not represent the actual real-life institution maintaining these collections.
Maybe simply use "O" as the code for UiO? The code is only a string anyway.
We are using RoR IDs for institution ID, so perhaps we can close this now? For private companies we can use wikidata IDs as institution IDs as a fallback.
Tasks
Google Spreadsheet with a list of the Norwegian institutions
How to categorize as GBIF data publishers?