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A question about the classification system #3883

Closed gbif-portal closed 2 years ago

gbif-portal commented 2 years ago

A question about the classification system

Hello, I have downloaded the data of a genus of Rhododendron here..It contains family / genus / species information. I would like to ask whether GBIF's data follows APG III classification system or APG IV classification system? Because I want to use this data to build an evolutionary tree later, I need to make this clear first, so as to consider whether to use plantlist package for query (plantlist package uses apgiii classification system). I urgently hope you can answer this question for me. Thank you!


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ManonGros commented 2 years ago

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mdoering commented 2 years ago

As far as I know World Plants still uses APG III, is that correct @yroskov?

yroskov commented 2 years ago

World Plants follows own classification which is sometimes ahead of APG IV. However, the Catalogue of Life based on Angiosperm Phylogeny Website powered by the Missouri Botaniocal Garden (http://www.mobot.org/MOBOT/research/APweb/).

mdoering commented 2 years ago

Please note that the algorithm building up the backbone starts out with the Catalogue of Life checklist which in turn is based on world plants. But we then add in more families that might not be in any of the APG classifications. See https://www.gbif.org/species/search?rank=FAMILY&dataset_key=d7dddbf4-2cf0-4f39-9b2a-bb099caae36c&constituent_key=0938172b-2086-439c-a1dd-c21cb0109ed5&constituent_key=c33ce2f2-c3cc-43a5-a380-fe4526d63650&constituent_key=aacd816d-662c-49d2-ad1a-97e66e2a2908&constituent_key=a43ec6d8-7b8a-4868-ad74-56b824c75698&constituent_key=f382f0ce-323a-4091-bb9f-add557f3a9a2&constituent_key=bae5856f-da10-4333-90a0-5a2135361b30&constituent_key=de8934f4-a136-481c-a87a-b0b202b80a31&highertaxon_key=220&status=ACCEPTED&status=DOUBTFUL&advanced=1

mdoering commented 2 years ago

@yroskov what about Styracaceae which is recognised by APGIV but is not sourced to COL? Ah, I see that COL has an odd authorship: Styracaceae DC. & Spreng. [transl. Jameson] Maybe thats the reason. Any chance to remove the brackets?

yroskov commented 2 years ago

The Catalogue of Life flowering plant classification for families and orders is based on the Angiosperm Phylogeny Website. Global species checklists from World Checklist of Selected Plant Families and from World Plants databases attached on family level.

yroskov commented 2 years ago

CoL consistent with Angiosperm Phylogeny Website: Styracaceae DC. & Spreng. http://www.mobot.org/MOBOT/research/APweb/ I do not see a reason to alter WP spelling of the authorstring in the CoL. As less alterations we add on our side, as more transparent are relations between data in the CoL and in the source.

mdoering commented 2 years ago

As you can see having odd information in brackets can break software like the GBIF bacbone build. [transl. Jameson] should not be in the authorship. @dhobern any opinion? I would think COL should be more strict in properlynaming at least higher taxa as a start.

yroskov commented 2 years ago

I would suggest that software should be accurate enough to eat original data. As I said many times, I am not comfortable with clb software where it dramatically changing original authorstrings.

CecSve commented 2 years ago

I am closing this @mdoering - let me know if it should be reopened.